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SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
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Council Chambers
11555 W. Civic Center Drive, Marana, Arizona 85653
August 26, 2008, at or after 6:00 p.m.
SPECIAL MEETING
(Keith Brann)
Keith Brann addressed Council with an update on the FEMA floodplain maps. Mr.
Brann stated that FEMA took everything that Marana had that wasn't flood plain but
was downstream from a feature that FEMA wanted to consider levee-like, and FEMA
failed all of these areas because they are not levees and therefore, FEMA created
indeterminate floodplains. Mr. Brann spoke on the Town having the CAP Canal
Berm, the railroad and I-10. The CAP has aberm-like structure and overshoots that
have capacity to allow flood waters to pass through. Mr. Brann showed council and
members of the audience the current map. I-10 and the railroad have a significant
number of culverts, and in the case of I-10 there are interchange openings that pass
A. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Ed Honea, Council Member Patti Comerford, Council Member
Carol McGorray, Council Member Jon Post, Council Member Russell Clanagan
Absent/Excused: Vice Mayor Herb Kai, Council Member Roxanne Ziegler. Vice
Mayor Kai joined the meeting at 6:30 p.m.
B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND INVOCATION/MOMENT OF SILENCE
Mayor Honea led the pledge of allegiance and the moment of silence.
C. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Presentation only.
D. CALL TO THE PUBLIC
At this time any member of the public is allowed to address the Town Council on any
issue not already on tonight's agenda. The speaker may have up to three minutes to
speak. Any persons wishing to address the Council must complete a speaker card
located outside the Council Chambers and deliver it to the Town Clerk prior to the
commencement of the meeting. Pursuant to the Arizona Open Meeting Law, at the
conclusion of Call to the Public, individual members of the council may respond to
criticism made by those who have addressed the Council, may ask staff to review the
matter, or may ask that the matter be placed on a future agenda.
Dr. Mark Falcon, asked Council to please have Town staff conduct a study on
getting a quiet zone where the railroad passes the crossing in Marana on Orange
Grove Road.
E. PRESENTATIONS -
1) Presentation: Relating to Development; presentation on the status of the
Tortolita Fan drainage study in response to FEMA's draft floodplain maps
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significant amounts of water. They do not act like levees. Mr. Brann stated that in
general, even in our worst flooding conditions, all of the water passes through this
system within a few hours. Mr. Brann went over the floodplain map, explaining in
detail how FEMA declared much of Marana as a floodplain.
Mr. Brann explained how Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford became involved with
this issue and how after her involvement, FEMA responded with a letter in March
2008 stating. their acknowledgement of how levee-like structures are not levees, they
don't have to meet levee criteria, and they can be individually modeled as to how they
can affect floodplain and the flow of flood waters. FEMA asked to see local
engineers' determination of what the .floodplain characteristics are, and that is how
the Town began its study on this issue.
Mr. Brann then introduced Mr. Clint Glass, who went over the Town's floodplain
study. Mr. Glass showed the Council and audience members the study maps,
explained how the study was conducted, and showed a couple of videos showing
some of the major water courses that affect the community.
Mr. Brann then gave an overview of flood insurance and post-firm and pre-firm
construction. He went over the different flood zones that each section of Marana is
in and explained the rates for each. Mr. Brann stated that FEMA's study was
indeterminate compared to the Town's floodplain study, as the Town determined the
depth of flow and velocity of flow. Mr. Brann explained that the Town's study has
shrunk the amount of area the FEMA declared floodplain and that if it is accepted by
FEMA, this would have a large cost savings to residents. Mr. Brann stated that the
Town submitted the study to FEMA on August 12. He explained that the Town
expects final results sometime in October. Preliminary firm maps are to be expected
in late 2008.
Mr. Brann then addressed questions from the audience pertaining to specific
developments by D.R. Horton and how they are zoned and reiterated the process in
which the Town submitted the study to FEMA and when results are expected. Mr.
Brann suggested that if the public would like to see where their homes could
potentially fall in the floodplain map area, that they can view the draft maps of the
Town's study.
The Mayor recessed the meeting at 7:02 p.m. and reconvened in the Board
Room at 7:20 p.m.
2) Presentation: Relating to Water and Wastewater (Barbara Johnson)
Gilbert Davidson stated that staff would be discussing three key elements regarding
Marana's water plan for community sustainability: political, legal, and technical. Mr.
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Davidson asked council to consider whether or not Marana has developed the right
strategy to achieve the sustainable vision for the community as it relates to water
sustainablity. He mentioned the key strategy points and achievements that staff have
made tremendous advancements in.
Mr. Davidson stated that the Town thought it best not to delay in finding water
sources for the Town and that staff began finding ways in securing future water ~:
sources.. He thanked Westland Resources for their assistance in helping Town staff
.create maps that were. shared with the Council. Mr. Davidson spoke regarding the
Town's management of its aquifer. He stated that the groundwater management code
was put. in effect and the active management areas were designed to ensure that a
system worked with the Town's natural environment.
Brad DeSpain spoke regarding how agriculture and growth have affected the water
issue. He gave a history starting with 1920's farming up to recent events surrounding
water usage in the area.
Frank Cassidy gave an overview on the legal issue surrounding water. He stated
that state law requires the Town to replenish the groundwater that it takes out. Mr.
Cassidy stated that Marana is in the Tucson Active Management Area (AMA). He
stated that all AMA's new subdivisions are required to show a 100 year assured water
supply. Most subdivisions get their assurance by connecting to a water company. A
water company gets its assured water supply designation by showing that it has
physically available water, the legal right to that water and the ability to replenish as
much water as it is drawing out of the ground. Mr. Cassidy stated that in Marana
there is plenty of water in the aquifer, but the issues are the legal rights to that water.
He stated that for the Town to get the legal rights the Town would have to replenish
what it takes out. Effluent plays into this in the basin. Mr. Cassidy then went over
the wastewater treatment facility ownership. He stated that it came to be as a result of
two 1979 agreements between the Town and Pima County. This agreement is the
center of the Town's current wastewater litigation issue. Mr. Cassidy stated that the
reason ownership of a wastewater treatment facility is important because there are
only two ways to get effluent, and one of those is to own a wastewater treatment
facility. The second way that control of effluent can be obtained is to enter into a
contract. with someone who owns...a wastewater treatment facility to acquire the
effluent. The drawback to the second way is that the only way to get a 100% benefit
of the effluent being acquired is to have a term of contract exceeding 100 years, and it
is very difficult to obtain contracts for term lengths as this. Another drawback is that
there is .never a guarantee of contract renewal, as the right is not permanently owned,
and chances of getting a renewal are slim. Mr. Cassidy stated that ownership of the
wastewater treatment plant is better than the best possible long-term effluent
acquisition agreement.
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August 26, 2008, at or after 6:00 p.m.
Dorothy O'Brien addressed Council regarding the water quality within the Town.
She gave a presentation explaining.. how the characteristics. of groundwater do change
over time. The Town's water still meets the safe water drinking act. She expressed
that communicating. more with residents about the water in the Town is something
that should be done. Ms. O'Brien stated that it is very important to seriously consider
moving forward with wastewater treatment facility ownership. She stated that by
controlling the Town's effluent, the Town will be able to ensure a sustainable
resource, and the Town will be able to control its future growth.
Barbara Johnson gave an overview of the story of water in Marana. She.explained
the cost of implementing the water strategies. She stated that Marana residents will ,
pay just as much not to own their ownwater, as they will to own and control their.
own future and water. Frank Cassidy then stated that the cost that citizens would pay
to Pima County would be the same whether they pay it to Pima County or to the
Town. He further stated that by operating the wastewater system, the Town has
significant benefits on the water side. Ms. Johnson gave a PowerPoint presentation
and explained the maps and photos. Mr. Davidson then asked for questions from
Council.
Council Member Clanagan asked for a legal overview of where the Town is since
the ruling of the wastewater litigation issue. Mr. Cassidy stated that the Town has
asked for finalization of language of the ruling that the judge made. The request is
currently pending as the County has filed .opposition to the judge's ruling. Mr.
Cassidy stated that a ruling on that request is expected shortly.
Council Member Clanagan asked staff what they wanted Council to do. Mr.
Davidson stated that staff would like help from Council in communicating with
citizens what the Town's vision is. He stated that everyone needs to understand that
this is about the cost of the Town's water.:
Council Member McGorray re-iterated the need to keep the magnitude of investors
back east who want to purchase water in Arizona. She stated that the Town should
move forward in every aspect of the water and wastewater aspect so that the Town
can control its own destiny. Her concern is the cost and how high that cost will get.
Council Member Comerford stated that it would be irresponsible for the policy
makers of the Town not to move forward and continue with the direction that they
have gone to at this point. She further stated. that in order for the Town to prosper
forward direction must be taken.
Council Member Kai stated that his concern is the cost of building the facility. Brad
DeSpain stated that. at build out, the Town will stand to lose $238 million to Pima
County and that this amount won't be of benefit to the Town. Council Member Kai
simply asked for staff and Council to look at the numbers again.
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Barbara Johnson stated that the numbers were calculated based on industry
standards and that the exact cost. would not be known until building begins. Frank.
Cassidy pointed out that the consultant, Dan Jackson of economists.com, is the person
:who helped determine rates for the .state and also keeps track of rates for the state.
Mr. Cassidy stated that these are real numbers and that the Town has looked at it from
the perspective that the Town does: not want citizens to pay more on the wastewater
side .after the Town .takes over the. operation, than what- the citizens paid to Pima
County.
Council Member Comerford thanked staff for their efforts, energies, and passion
that they:-have put forth in the water/wastewater matter.
Mayor Honea stated that he believes staff is very competent and that they have put
the community's,interest at heart. He stated that the Town should move forward with
this issue.
Dorothy O'Brien stated that there is a relationship between the water and wastewater
bills. She stated that if the Town does not control its water resources, then citizen's
water bills will continue to rise and they could rise exponentially.
,. Gilbert Davidson closed with thanking Council for their patience and understanding
in representing the community and making sure staff continues in the right direction.
He stated that staff would continue to ensure that the .Town is moving in the right
path.
ANNOUNCEMENTS/UPDATES -
PROCLAMATIONS -
F. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS
G. MANAGER'S REPORT: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS
H. STAFF REPORTS
GENERAL ORDER OF BUSINESS
I. CONSENT AGENDA
The Consent Agenda contains items requiring action by the Council which are
generally routine items not requiring Council discussion. A single motion will
approve :all items on the Consent agenda, including any resolutions or
ordinances. A Council Member may remove any issue from the Consent agenda,
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and that issue will be discussed and voted upon separately, immediately
following the Consent agenda.
J. COUNCIL ACTION
K. BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS
L. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/POSSIBLE ACTION
M. EXECUTIVE SESSIONS
1. Executive Session pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.03 (A)(3), Council may ask
for discussion or consultation for legal advice with the Town Attorney
concerning any matter listed on this agenda.
2. Executive Session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3),(4) and (7),
discussion or consultation for legal advice with the Town's attorneys and
discussion and to consider its position and instruct the Town Manager and
staff concerning the lawsuit entitled Town of Marana v. Pima County/Pima
County v. Marana (consolidated), Maricopa County Superior Court No.
CV2008-001131.
N. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Notwithstanding the mayor's discretion of what items to place on the
agenda, if three or more council members request an item to be placed on
the agenda, it must be placed upon the agenda for the second regular town
council meeting after the date of the request (Marana Town Code, Title 2,
Chapter 2-4, Section 2-4-2 B)
O. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Council Member McGorray, second by Vice Mayor Kai, the
meeting was unanimously adjourned 6-0, Council Member Post having left the
meeting prior to adjournment.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing are the true and correct minutes of the Marana
meeting held on August 26, 2008. I further certify that a quorum was present.
celyn C ronson, Town Clerk
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