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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/17/1998 Regular Council Meeting MinutesI1. III. IV. PLACE AND DATE Marana Town Hall, March 17, 1998 CALL TO ORDER By Mayor Ora Harn at 7:12 P.M. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Led by Mayor Ora Harn INVOCATION Led by Paul Ruehl ROLLCALL COUNCIL Ora Harn Bobby Sutton, Jr. Ed Honea Herb Kal Sherry Millner Michael Reuwsaat Roxanne Ziegler Mayor Vice Mayor Council Member Council Member Council Member, excused Council Member Council Member STAFF Hurvie Davis Michael Hein Jocelyn Entz Dan Hochuli Sandy Groseclose dane dohnson Dan Groseclose Brad DeSpain Al Cook Dick Gear Dave Atler Joel Shapiro Town Manager Assistant Town Manager Asst. to Town Manager Town Attorney Town Clerk Human Resources Director CDBG Administrator Utilities Director Building/Zoning Inspector Annexation Coordinator Town Engineer Principal Planner APPROVAL OFAGENDA A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Vice Mayor Sutton, to approve the agenda, as written. The motion carried 6/0. VI. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES A motion was made by Herb Kal, seconded by Vice Mayor Sutton, to accept the minutes of Regular Council Meeting, Mamh 3, 1998. The motion carried 6/0. VII. CALL TO THE PUBLIC/ANNOUNCEMENTS Patti Comerford, 8177 North Torrey Place, Marana, AZ 85653: I am here today to extend an invitation to you all. On March 28th, at 10:00 AM, at our brand new Windmill Park, we will be celebrating our grand opening ceremonies, as well as the grand opening of Windmill Park by Coventry. We plan to have lots of fun and a lot of things going on that day, and we would like to recognize you as Council. This invitation is also extended by Coventry, they asked me to come and speak on their behalf, as well. Just so you don't forget, this is something to put on your desk to remind you (ball shaped invitations). Bill Schisler, 12561 North White Avenue, Marana, AZ 85653: A couple of quick items. I noticed you redid the agenda, again. This has happened quite a few times and it seems to me that you would be saving a lot of time and effort if you would wait a couple of moro days to fill it in. Then you would not have to do all of that paperwork again and get it out. Just my opinion. The other item, I know you are all real busy and probably don't notice, but the people go into the businesses down here on Marana Road and Sandario and the right-of-way that belongs to the Town is in one tough shape. There is going to be some axles broken and stuff if something does not happen there. I am not sure why the people that drive in and out have not started hollering at you yet. Something should be done there. The trucks that you put the signs up for, to keep them away from the businesses so they wouldn't get in the way and run the diesel smoke all over the place, have run over the signs and knocked them down to park there any way. I don't know what you are going to do there, but that is what they did. There is one sitting up along side of a cactus there. Somebody will look into that, and I appreciate it. Thank you. Mayor Harn: I would like to bring to the Council's attention that there is a rural art traveling exhibit at the Marana Library. It will be there from March 12th through April lSL They have sent us a beautiful poster and we have one here at Town Hall. If someone would like to take one up to Continental Ranch at the Visitors Recreational building, that would be nice. I think we need to get one over to them. This is beautiful. Let me give you this, as well. It is at the Marana Library, across the street, and it will be there until April Ist. These are very nice art exhibits and I am sure the more people come and appreciate it, the more often we will get these traveling art exhibits and an opportunity to enjoy that art. Mayor Harn: I have a presentation I would like to make tonight, to a very nice young man who is here with us this evening. I would like Sean Anderson to come forward, and his mother, Mrs. Holly, and his brother and sister. Sean did a project for his Eagle Scout award. I love to go to those things, it gives you good feelings about the future of our country, as you go out and see young people, like Sean, who are willing to work in their community and put together a project like his flag that he erected just down the street a little ways, at LDS Mormon Church. Sean did not have quite enough money to finish up his project the way he would like to and Marana has a little award of $100 that we give out to scholars and young people to help them finish up a project that they are working on. This is to encourage young people in Marana to put in a little effort and work in their community and do community projects. Sean, you have a beautiful 2 project and I would like to award you with this check for $100 from the Town of Marana and our appreciation for being part of Marana and for this beautiful project that you have done. We wish you all the success as you grow up and continue to be an outstanding citizen in your community. Sean Anderson: Thank you. Dave After: I would like to introduce a new employee. Tony Santana recently started with the Public Works Department as an engineering technician. He is taking over for Chuck Gajda, who has recently retired to go back to school. Tony is a retired Air Force Master Sergeant, with over 18 years as an engineering technician in the Air Force and working with Pima County in traffic engineering. He is currently enrolled in school and plans to stay in school and, hopefully stay with the Town. He is going to Pima College to learn construction engineering and civil engineering. He has three children, Richard is fifteen, Damian is twelve, and Tina is six. He has very optimistic and admirable goals of continuing productivity as a member of this organization, to exceed all expectations, gain new aspects associated with Town growth and challenges. I didn't even ask him to do that, so, I would like to welcome Tony tonight. Mayor Harn: The other announcement that we shouldn't forget is our Founders Day this Saturday and the golf tournament on Sunday, the 22nd. I don't know, can people still sign up for the golf tournament? (it is on the agenda- yes they can) One thing I want to be sure to say this evening is that the kick-off breakfast, from 7:00 AM-9:00AM, is a public event. Anybody can come to the breakfast, the tickets are $3.00. The proceeds of that are going to the Rotary Club, our local Cotton Rotary Club, and with it they will be providing scholarships for young people in our community. It is well worth coming out to the breakfast and starting off the day with a Little Bit of Country. Dave After: I would like to add that the playground systems are now officially open. The fall-safe wood chips finally came in and they are all spread down, the last ones came in last night. The kids were all over it this afternoon, so go out and enjoy it. I think it is the largest system in the Southwest. Mayor Harn: We have one other announcement. We have a new citizen of Marana. Maybe our Vice Mayor would like to tell us about our new citizen. Vice Mayor Sutton: Eighteen years from March 3rd, we will have a new voter. My son Trevor Lewis was born, eight pounds 1 ounce. He is doing very good and his mother is doing good, also. (applause) Mayor Harn: We want to be sure that you know the Council recognizes that. VIE]El.STAFF REPORTS No action taken. IX. GENERAL ORDER OF BUSINESS A. Consent 1. Resolution No. 98-26: Ramada Inn at Continental Ranch - Request for Approval of a Development Plan for a Ramada Inn Hotel on a Portion of Lot 4, Continental Ranch Business Park Located at the Northwest Corner of Hospitality Road and Cracker Barrel Road in a Portion of the West t/2 of Section 26, Township 12 South, Range 12 East. Owner/Developer Es Parras L.L.C. cio Pat Fussell & Associates, PO Box 30668, Flagstaff, AZ 86003 2. Resolution No. 98-27: Day's Inn at Continental Ranch - Request for Approval of a Development Plan for a Day's Inn Hotel on a Portion of Lot 5, Continental Ranch Business Park Located at the Southwest Corner of Hospitality Road and Cracker Barrel Road in a Portion of the West 1/2 of Section 26, Township 12 South, Range 12 East. Owner/Developer Es MMP Properties, 4150 N. Mountain Avenue, Suite 2'10, Upland, California, 91786 3. Resolution No. 98-29 - New Regulatory Speed Signs, Tangerine Road Improvements, Union Pacific Railroad to East of 1-10 4. Resolution No. 98-28 - Installation of Four-Way Stop Signs at Silverbell Road and Coachline Boulevard A motion was made by Vice Mayor Sutton, seconded by Ed Honea, to approve the Consent Agenda, as written. Motion carried 6~0. B. Community Develooment Block Grant Week - Proclamation Dan Groseclose: This proclamation that we are asking you to pass tonight is an annual event. The Town has passed it for many years, now. It is a national recognition of Community Development Block Grants. We sponsor a celebration, along with South Tucson, Pima County and the City of Tucson. This year the event will be held on April 9th at the Habitats for Humanity's Tucson 2200 project, which they are just in the process of completing. Mayor Ham and I serve on a committee for this event every year. At this time, unless you have any questions, I would like for you to pass the proclamation. A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Ed Honea, to proclaim April 5th through April 11th, 1998, as National Community Development week. Motion carried 6/0. C. Marana Founders' Day Celebration - Update by the Marana Chamber of Commerce Esparanza Guevara, 9055 North Palm Brook: Yes, this weekend is Founders Day, we are very excited. We are up and running. We have, at 7:00 AM, the Little Bit of Country Breakfast. It is open to everyone, it is $3.00. That starts at the pavilion at Marana Park. At that same time, we will be having hot air balloon tethered rides behind the Rec. Center. And, the 4 Corona de Marana bike tour will be happening that day. I believe that starts at Barnett and Lon Adams, at the corner of the park. There is a 60 mile, 30 mile and a 6 mile run. At 9:00AM the parade will begin at Estes Elementary School. We have over 50 entries and there will be about 400 or 500 people, I think, just in the parade, alone. We have about 150 Girl Scouts attending, so it is going to be a big parade and we are pretty excited about that. From 10:00-5:00 is the Country Fair at Marana Park. We have over 70 venders, and people are still trying to get in, so we are going to have a really nice group of multi-cultural food and all kinds of venders there. It is going to be a lot of fun. We will have game booths for the kids, a kiddy train ride, a monster truck ride, a jumping castle, an Indian Market with social gathering, Gopher Golf and multi-cultural entertainment all day long. The Marana Skydivers will be landing at 11:00 and we will also have a TV available so we can all watch our Wildcats win on Saturday, so we can hopefully keep the crowd. We will be running until 5:00, so the more the merrier, all day long. We are still accepting golfers for our March 22"d golf tournament. It is going to be at the Links at Continental Ranch. Registration is at 11:30, but if you could get your registration in prior to Sunday, that would help us out a lot, but on Sunday we will still be taking registration, if there is still room. There will be lots of prizes and give-aways, dinners and trips and lots of great stuff for our tournament this year. Everyone is invited, please come out and celebrate Marana's birthday. Any questions? Vice Mayor Sutton: I noticed, just for an idea, at the Tucson Open, the Practice Tee had a booth set up where they brought out drivers and clubs and people could see how hard they could hit it. That thing had a line and it was a big money raiser. I don't know if you talked to them or not, but they had to get several hundred, if not a couple of thousand, dollars off of that booth. They gave something away to whoever hit the longest drive. It was like a radar and it told you how far you hit the ball. Do you have anything like that? Esparanza Guevara: We don't have something as elaborate, but we do have Gopher Golf, which the Marana Foundation for Educational Excellence is going to be running a booth for. It will be to promote the golf tournament and there will be a green there where people can buy a putt for however much, I am not sure what Mike Angelo is going to be doing. We will be there and the Council, hopefully, will be there to promote it. That money will go to help MFEE. So, we will have something like that, just not as elaborate, with radar. The Explorers will be having a softball radar booth set up. Any other questions? Thank you very much. D. PUBLIC HEARING: Ordinance No. 98.07: Request of Rezone by Vistoso verde LP - Consideration of Approval of a Request to Rezone Approximately 75.2 Acres Located Approximately ¼ Mile North of Moore Road and East of the Thornydale Road Alignment in the West % of Section 29, Township 11, South Range 13 East from "Zone C" (large lot zone, minimum lot size 25 acres) to R-144 (single family residential, minimum lot area 144,000 sq. ft.), R-36 (single family residential, minimum lot area 36,000 sq. ft.), R-16 (single family residential, 5 minimum lot area t6,000 sq. ft.), Assessor's Parcel Numbers 2t9-30-07, 219-31-02 through 05. The Applicant is The Planning Center, 450 W. Paseo Redondo, Suite 202, Tucson, AZ 85701. The Property Owner is Vistoso Verde Limited Partnership, P.O. Box 433938, Tucson, AZ 85733 (CONTINUED FROM 3/3/98) Hurvie Davis: At your last meeting, March 34, you held a public hearing on this request for rezoning of approximately 75.2 acres, located in the area of Moore Road and Thomydale Road. At that time, you held a public hearing and decided to continue the public hearing to this meeting. One of the reasons was we had already advertised the item as a public hearing on this date, as well. The item is up for consideration and the public hearing is still to continue. I would recommend to you that you open the public hearing for any further comments from the public that might be forth coming this evening. As far as action on this item, it is my understanding that the applicant has asked for a continuance of this item. Perhaps the applicant is here or Mr. Shapiro can address this issue in more detail. A motion was made by Vice Mayor Sutton, seconded by Mike Reuwsaat, to open the public hearing. Motion carried 6/0. The public hearing is now open. Tracy Chamberlain, 13650 North Thornydale: I have a prepared statement. My husband and I own 20 acres. This is a bit misleading. You do not envision that we live in an untouched canyon. The environment is pure in the epitome of what so many people envision Arizona to be. The area and canyons provide shelter to many items, such as petrogliphs, Indian artifacts and a wide variety of delicate wildlife and natural wildlife corridors. Tucson and Marana has long had clear differences, in compared with Phoenix. Although, in the past few years, we appear to be on the fast track to compete with what Phoenix and other larger cities have to offer, weeding out the overwhelming success of what Tucson has always given, the open relaxed lifestyle that I believe is represented in residents of Tucson, Marana and surrounding communities when we look around at the absolute natural beauty that we are abundantly blessed with. To allow this to be jeopardized is not an option or a concession for the improvements the developers promise to better us with. One town official said it well when she said, "When you buy a dirt road, you get a dirt road." For most of us, this is a lifestyle that dictates itself and we follow the natural path nature has allowed us. This is not to say that we wish to live without improvements, we simply wish to restrain such overkill of what is becoming common practice, which has impacted communities that have long existed and been changed forever by such radical changes, in the name of improvement. Our canyons and picturesque mountain ridges are to live forever and represent Tucson, even when the voices of our representatives fail to capture the magnitude of this natural, appealing asset that we have and so many other cities lack. Let's be strong and united with the foresight that these are some of the very reasons that attract people to Tucson and Marana. You are not merely altering the area for residents or visitors, you are playing God and dictating what part of nature will be left and feeling proud about incorporating open space and trail access to public parks. When we need to visit public parks to surround ourselves by nature, its creatures and their natural habitat, the future of Marana and surrounding communities will depend on responsible decisions by strong leadership, that both development and natural resources be weighed proportionately. Reflect on what the Catalinas, Pusche Ridge, Ventana Canyon, Sabino Canyon and others once looked like and what they now look like. I take no pride in man's visions when viewing these decisions. I caution you in continuing the steady approval process for development that has had such a strong hold on Marana's growth appetite. You are devouring the commodity that sells our area to so many residents and visitors. The long term ramifications of the current rezoning request by the Vistoso Verde Development include issues that will burden the existing communities and residents, directly affecting their health, safety and welfare. This includes overwhelming density, strain on the emergency services that are currently seriously lacking to assist existing residents, confused even more by the fact that this will be Marana and the boundaries will be Pima County/Tortolita. The jurisdiction situation, which has been problematic to northern residents, is compounded by the fact that this development will have fire services provided by Marana Water and, I assume, with an IGA with Tucson Water and the fire protection with Northwest Fire Department at RedHawk. The County residents will be serviced by Rural Metro. Our only water for such is brought in by tanker truck. Will hydrants be engineered to accommodate emergency service beyond this development to surrounding properties? If so, how will it be implemented, by fees or subscriptions? The promised access of underground utilities by the owners and developers to the residents in the north, specifically in regards to water, has not clearly been resolved. Do they have the authority to provide water beyond their boundaries and will it be engineered for such? And, will resources be available to residents outside of Marana, or what process will be necessary for doing such? I request the issue of pollution to the groundwater resources be given serious attention and review. Most all surrounding properties are on private wells. The toxin and health hazards posed by the use of fourteen septics and a leaching field on the one acre lots to the northern portion are horrendous. This portion should be incorporated into the sewer that will be implemented throughout this development. I see no reason for excluding this portion and it should be a condition of rezoning. We are mostly all rock, the absorption factor seriously lacking. The travel ability, without filtering, could affect many more properties than we might realize immediately. It is problematic for some property owners in the area to meet perc requirements due to these unusual ground conditions. In addition, the request for the abandonment of Thornydale alignment is a matter of great concern, as this is the only access to infrastructure and deed of legal right-of-way. Their intent of allowin~o the northern residents to use their road systems and gated entry should be a condition of rezone, not a conceptual agreement. Nor should it be controlled by any CCNR's or association. Other serious issues include: Who will pay for connecting road systems, as there is no access to improvement services or road maintenance? Tortolita does not have these funds and Pima County doesn't included them in their transportation budget. These issues will also affect refused disposal. Additionally, there is no public ? transportation and no public recreation areas, thus will increase the burden of trespassing and safety issues to surrounding residents and their properties. In closing, the sewer, as I understand, is dependent on Forrest City. I thought Forrest City was years from implementing this infrastructure. How long can we assume this development will take to materialize? Will it be sold off in pieces and will it be amended due to what will be smaller individual developments? Mike Reuwsaat: I would like to get a copy of your presentation. Tracy Chamberlain: I would be happy to fax it to you after I clear up all of the red ink marks from tonight. Roxanne Ziegler: Hurvie, did you say this item was continued? Hurvie Davis: Yes. There is a letter in your packet, dated March 6th from the Planning Center, representing the applicant, asking that this item be continued until the April 7th meeting. That is right at the back of your bluesheets. Roxanne Ziegler: Do we have to grant that continuance or can we vote on this tonight if we choose? Hurvie Davis: I would refer that to Mr. Hochuli. But, it would be my understanding that Council may choose to act on it this evening or continue it. Dan Hochuli: Correct. Mayor Ham: Tracy, have you spoken to any of the planning people who are working in that area, or anything? Tracy Chamberlain: Absolutely, I have spoken extensively with Cindy DeLeon and Jerry Flannery and Paul. I have worked with them over the last two years, in particular, on this issue. Mayor Harn: So, you are up to date on the discussions and so forth that are going on with this property? Tracy Chamberlain: I believe I am. At least to what has been made available to me, yes. Thank you. Pam Johnson, 3321 West Moore Road: Actually, that address is where my mail box lives, we live north of Moore Road. We just recently moved there and I would just like to add my voice to those people that have a concern about this development. We moved there in September to get away from the matting crowd, so to speak. We are so much enjoying the wide open space and the beautiful views and serenity and quietness. We were concerned when we heard about this. It sounds like, on paper, pretty much what we moved away from, so we would just like to add our voices, my husband and I, to this. The concern that, already, we are being encroached upon and we would like to keep our wide open spaces. Thank you. Lisa Sullivan, 13000 North Thornydale: I live adjacent to the property in question, on the southeast corner. I have five acres on that. I am opposed to this rezoning based on, basically, health, safety and welfare issues. Water and sewer are primary concerns of ours. There is not adequate water in the area at this time. All of the adjacent property owners are on a well, many of which are not producing. If they do bring water in, as Tracy touched upon, there is no agreement in place, at this time, between Marana Water and Tucson Water, so we are concerned that they might intend to put a well on the property, which would then deplete all of our ground water. As far as sewers are concerned, on the original packet that the applicant submitted, they stated that they were intending to put sewer to all of the properties. At the last meeting, they said that on the northern fourteen lots, I believe, they were going to do septic. That area is known to not percolate well, it is very rocky and we are concerned about where that effluent will go. It is going to go down the hill and right into all of our properties down below. We are also concerned about fire protection, garbage collection and common areas. As we are now, there is no garbage collection in the area, they will not come off of public roads to service any of us. We have to take our trash to the dump, as it is. If they are not going to dedicate the streets to Marana, there will be no trash pick up in the area, we are concerned about where they are going to put all of their refuse. Is the developer going to provide for that, or is this something that they will have to take care of on their own. As far as the common areas, they didn't plan for any in their development plan. There are no nearby facilities for children, or residents, to do any type of recreation. We are concerned about trespassing. There is no available public transportation and there needs to be some type of common area in this development if it is to work. As far as fire protection, Tracy touched upon that very well. We all have to use tanker trucks, at this time, if there is a fire. There is no provision for hydrants in this plan, as well. That is an area of concern for us, as well. Basically, just the one private issue I have is the peaks. Those are gorgeous, untouched mountain peaks, at this time, and it would be a shame to have Marana set a precedence to destroy the tops of those peaks. With RedHawk you protected them on the one side and Pima County is protecting them on the other. It would be a real shame to have the one segment in there, that the peaks are destroyed. I have a copy of my statement. Thank you. Any questions? Pharo Phelps, 14121 North Seifert Estates: I have been a steward of the land out there for sixteen years and this project is nothing else but like a twenty story high-rise next to us, out there. All of the lots to the north and to the west, the CZ&R's out there are not Pima County, are ten acres per home. That is something that is like Carmel, in California, or something, that is precious. We don't want to see it just lost with the click of a hand just for a few dollars to be made, here. There are plenty of other dollars that can be made down the road on many, many parcels around Marana and Pima County. On this 75 acres, there is not enough money out there to be made for the Town of Marana to change the zoning so drastically. To go from one house per 40 acres or one house per 25 acres down to 15,000 square feet, that is just atrocious. We are all living on 5 acre parcels or bigger out there and it is not fair to us or the animals. We have been stewards of the land for a long time out there. The other thing is that we have all hauled water, at one time or another. I've hauled for 10 years. I sold my water truck to Tracy and her husband. When it rains like it did a couple of weeks ago, we stopped having to haul water after a week. That is how fast that water went down there and recharged our wells. So, if it takes only a week for the rain water to get down, when that sewage goes down the mountain side, into the ground, it is going to waste our wells. This a real important issue, here. Thank you for your time. Any questions? Vicki Brown, 12701 North Thornydale: Like my neighbors, my family and I live on a 5 acre parcel and I would just like to, very briefly, express our deep concern for the rezoning of this parcel from one home per 25 acres down to three, or maybe four, homes per acre. It is unreasonable, we feel. We really like our lifestyle, we like the openness and we really like looking at the mountains and their beauty. We would really hate to see it devastated like that. Thank you. Ruth Cooper, 13035 North Teal Blue Trail: As all of my neighbors have spoken so eloquently, I am also opposed to this. There are so many issues for this development coming in. Within a two mile radius, I would say, the average lot size per home is 5 acres, at least. To come in at such a high density would absolutely ruin that area. You have heard all of the different issues, and the issue I want to address is the homes on top of the peaks. To the west of this proposed subdivision is another subdivision that you have already gone through and it has been O.K.'d by Marana. They have left the peaks as greenbelts and protected that. To the east of this properly is Pima County and, of course, they will protect those peaks also. Right now, the proposed site has all of these homes on top of the mountains and, I don't know if any of you have gone out and walked that property. Basically, that whole ridge is pure rock. What they would have to do, in order to put homes on top of that site is, basically, blast and bulldoze and flatten that mountain. That would absolutely ruin the top of that whole ridge and the whole area. Even going up Thornydale, you can see the Thornydale Road going across the mountain side, because it is such a big scar through there. Can you imagine what that would look like with all of those peaks torn down and homes put up there? Also, I have noticed since I have lived out there, there are so many bobcats, mountain lion and deer that go through that corridor and if they were able to come out and it be destroyed, there would be no place for those animals to run through that area. That is part of the reason we live out there, is to live with the animals and to be able to enjoy seeing them. Like all of the rest of my neighbors, I am very opposed to this and I would like to see a more reasonable development be put back in, if they have to. I understand that people want to develop land, but within reason and within gradual density. That would be my wish. Any questions? Mayor Harn: I would just like to say that a number of our Council people have been out in that area and walked every inch of that area. ]0 Mike Reuwsaat: There is an agreement on the sewer issues. Mayor Harn: Our Council is very sensitive to this project and is looking at it very closely. If there are any of you who would like to have a Council member talk to you or would like to talk to a Council member, our Council (I hope I can speak for the Council, here) is very open to receiving calls and speaking with you. We don't like to get calls that are unfriendly but we certainly don't mind talking to you and answering questions that you might have about this project. I think I speak for the Council. So, please, if you have questions, most of us are listed in the telephone directory and our Council is very open to discussing these things with you and maybe answering some of your questions. Louie Benson, 2590 West Tortolita Hills Trail: Thanks for the opportunity, Mayor and Council. I would also like to register my opposition to this project. My family sent me here as their representative and we are opposed for all of the reasons mentioned. Thank you. Brian Disbury, 13450 North Teal Blue Trail: I came to America some 20 years ago, I was run out of Africa, basically, for a variety of reasons. I have traveled many places in the world. I lived in Brazil and saw what they have done to their jungles. I saw what happened in Africa. I came to America and spent time in Colorado and Phoenix. I came to work for a company, here in Tucson. My main reason for coming to Tucson is that it reminded me of what Africa used to be like. Roxanne Ziegler: Mr. Shapiro, can you tell me how many people were noticed? When you say, here, "All property owners, within 300 feet..." Can you tell me how many property owners that is? Joel Shapiro: I don't have the file with me that has the certified receipts, unfortunately. But, if you look in the packet, there is a map that will give you a pretty good idea of the number of property owners. There were twelve property owners, within 300 feet, that were given notice. Roxanne Ziegler: Twelve property owners within 300 feet. When I look at our blue sheet, it says that there was only one letter of protest. I am assuming you are talking about a written letter of protest? Joel Shapiro: Correct, at the time the staff report was prepared, there was only one written letter of protest. Roxanne Ziegler: How about the folks that were just here. Did you guys write? In my mind, if you come up here and verbally tell us, as you have, that is good enough for me. I am just wondering why all of these folks have come up to protest and we have one written letter of protest and I know this gentleman and he lives very near. That is fine. So, out of twelve people, we have had several up here, tonight, which live in the area. What I am hearing again is a majority of people within that area are against this. I want to make ]! it very clear to the Council, again, that if the majority of the people are against a rezoning, it should tell us something. I think I mentioned that last week. Thank you. A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Vice Mayor Sutton, to come out of public hearing. Motion carried 6/0. A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Ed Honea, to continue this item until the next meeting. Motion carried 5/1. Roxanne Ziegler voted no. Mike Reuweaat: I would like the people who have spoken tonight to understand that the concerns that you have spoken to us are Planning Commission concerns, padicularly the peaks issue. I think I speak strongly, on behalf of the Council, that the sewer issues, the access, the right-of-ways, and all of that are all of concern. The packet information that we have today is one full page of conditions that address some of those. I think it has been made clear to the applicant that we are not interested in development of the peak. We are not real excited, or interested, in providing septic systems that will impact the area. I think that is the most appropriate thing. I think that the applicant understands that and has asked for a continuance so they can go back to the drawing board and look at an alternative, given the constraints that they do have. That is why I will vote for the continuance for two more weeks, for myself, to have some of the issues addressed on fire, garbage, and those issues brought up by those people here at the meeting tonight. But, no more than two weeks. Vice Mayor Sutton: I am going to echo what Council member Reuwsaat said, so you know why the applicant requested a continuance, it is because of the masons you are talking about. I will go on public record, and I think that I speak for all of us up hem, I witl never vote for a house on any of the peaks. That is one of the reasons they are going back. What it sounded like, to me, was that each of you that spoke would possibly look at it if you could get some improvements out of it yourself, but not to go in and destroy the ama with density. Them may be a common ground that you could reach. One of you mentioned a common area. There are some issues that, maybe, could be met on. We can give the applicant some direction, too. If you had seen the list of conditions, it is almost two pages long. That is why they have to go back and look at it again. We support what all of you said. Roxanne Ziegler: I would like to give my reason for a "no" vote. I have been on Planning and Zoning, prior to my coming on here. This has been in front of Planning and Zoning a couple of times, at least. We have waited a long time. I think it is really difficult for you, I know it would be for me if I lived out there. One of the Council members said there is a list of conditions and that is one of the reasons that I have somewhat changed my thinking. Here is a page and here is the other page of why our staff would recommend it, except you have to do all of this. This pretty much turns me off from my days in Planning and Zoning. I know, when I was in Planning and Zoning, they voted it down and I am going to stick with that. I know how the other Council members feel, but you'll get a "no" vote from me. Thank you. Ordinance No. 98.06 Consideration to Approve Rezone of Approximately 4.1 Acres Located at the Southeast Corner of Tangerine Road and Dove Mountain Boulevard in the Northwest ¼ of the Northwest ¼ of Section 1, Township 12 South, Range 12 East, Assessor's Parcel Number 216-01-0150, from "C Zone" (large lot zone to "NC" (Neighborhood Commercial). Applicant is the Inlet Company, P.O. Box 414740, Kansas City, MO 64141 (CONTINUED FROM 3/3/98) Hurvie Davis: This is an item that came before you at the last Council meeting, as well. It is a request to rezone approximately 4.1 acres located in the area of Tangerine Road and Dove Mountain Boulevard. At the last Council meeting, March 3r~, you had the public hearing and closed the public hearing and continued action on this item until tonight's meeting. With this item, like the previous one, the applicant has asked for a continuance until April 7th. It is up to you, this evening, whether or not you want to continue this item until the next meeting, or whatever meeting, and also if you wish to act on this item this evening. Ed Honea: I am in favor of taking action on this particular item, tonight. I will give you a brief reason. The Town of Marana needs to be more responsible when it comes to speculative zoning, where individuals ask for a zoning upgrade and then say they are going to wait seven, eight, or nine years before they are going to do anything with the property. I am not saying I would be against an upgrade of zoning on this property if someone came in with a development agreement and expressed what they wanted to put on the property, and when, specifically. Just to upgrade something to a commercial, or another grade of property, and then to just let it sit there, I think it is just speculation. A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Mike Reuwsaat, to deny Ordinance 98.06. The motion carried 6/0. F. Stage II Vapor Recovery_ - Discussion and Possible Action Hurvie Davis: This is titled Stage II Vapor Recovery. This is kind of a strange title to this, but as you recall, we have had several presentations that have been before you at meetings and this is to capture the vapor coming out of fuel tanks when automobiles fuel up, and so forth. This item was tentatively scheduled to come before the PAG Regional Council later this month, and so forth, in which all jurisdictions were being asked to act on this item. It is my understanding that a majority of the jurisdictions, thus far, have not acted on this item. They have, in some fashion or another, continued this item and staff would suggest to you this evening that you may want to continue this item, as well, until a later date to find out what some of the larger jurisdictions are going to do. Mayor Harn: Mr. Davis, I think I also suggest continuance of this item. We got notebooks with information on this vapor recovery today. No one has even received those notebooks. Sandy was going to put them on the Dais, and I said, "Get them out of here, I am carrying enough stuff and don't want to carry them." I also suggest we continue this item to a future agenda. A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Mike Reuwsaat, to continue item F to a future agenda. The motion carried 6/0. Roxanne Ziegler: I would just like to say that we did have a study session on this for an hour, about a month ago. Personally, I heard enough and I have my mind made up. I'll go for continuance only because it is politically correct, at this time. I don't need another book, I had people calling me from Lesher Communications and I said, "Guys, I am on your side." Even though there is another book out there, we got a book with those folks who came up and presented it to us. I think we should all be pretty versed in vapor recovery. Thank you. Resolution No. 98-30 - Adoption of Intergovernmental Agreement with Pima County for the Administration of funds and Construction Management Regarding Thornydale Road from Orange Grove Road to Ina Road, Inclusive, and Update on Phase I Construction from Horizon Hills Drive Through Ina Road Hurvie Davis: We are seeking your approval to adopt an IGA, Intergovernmental Agreement, with Pima County for the administration of funds and construction management regarding Thornydale Road Construction from, essentially, Orange Grove to Ina Road. As you might recall, the first phase is from Horizon Hills north through the intersection at Ina Road. Also, tonight, we would like to update you on the status of the construction on that first phase, north of Horizon Hills. Mr. Atler has been working with Pima County on this issue and is up to date on it so I will turn it over to Mr. After. Dave Atler: As Council may recall, last June we brought before you some conditions of compromise, if you will, to divide the Thornydale Road project up into different phases. The initial project that Pima County was proposing was a six lane project from Orange Grove through Ina Road, into town and transitioning to four lanes from their north. The primary concerns that were expressed and, primarily signed by Council member Honea, were regarding the intersection at Ina and Thornydale. That is what we wanted to focus on. One of my recommendations was also that if the request by Pima County to do the project, down the line in 2000 and 2001, was going to take place, we needed to make sure we had the money to finish the project and have that go through PAG. After a number of iterations with the County, they finally took this project through PAG in the beginning of November to get the additional funds. Those funds are programmed to complete the entire project in 2000/2001. Two weeks ago today, March 3rd, the Board of Supervisors adopted the IGA. There have been a few issues, I think you all saw the correspondence I sent last week, regarding some questions on the "...design 14 of the traffic signal." It was actually supposed to be "...the sequencing and testing of the traffic signal," not "design," so they told me, "Well, that is just the wrong word." I do have a letter from their deputy director stating that they are going to take care of everything and we are supposed to start meeting this week to take care of that. I am satisfied that the County has bellied up to the table, so to speak, and taken care of the issues. We have also been working with them, as Councilwoman Ziegler is aware of, with the business community, the Planning Department is working very closely with them and Al Cook, with the Building Department through the Planning Department, for signing. The County was able to get that house so we now have access to Gold Canyon Shopping Center for the next phase, Ina Road north. Things are falling into place. They are all getting weekly updates and there is not much going on right now, other than utility relocations. We are working very closely with the business community, to keep them updated. I was at a Chamber breakfast last Thursday morning. It was myself, the Deputy Director of PDOT, and their design and project engineers were all there and made a presentation to the Chamber. We are going to be doing mailings, with or without the County, to cover the business community from Old Father all the way to the Town limits on the east end, to the business community on all four corners and all the way south to Orange Grove. The way we look at it is, even though they are not in the area of immediate construction, they are going to be effected and we want to be sure they are all involved. We are going to be having weekly meetings once the project starts. Prior to that we are going to be having a kick off meeting that the County is sponsoring, that will be held next month. I have requested, and the County has agreed, to have that at least three weeks prior to the main construction beginning. The idea of that is to get the business community to come in and see the faces and learn names, find out who they have to call if they have concerns, complaints, questions or what have you. We are sort of forcing a round peg, Pima County, into a square hole and getting them to do something a little different. Brooks Kennan has been very open to this, fortunately, and the BAC has been very helpful and Councilwoman Ziegler has been very helpful with her participation. We are cautiously optimistic but we are working with them to get the project going and get it done right and as fast as possible. A motion was made by Herb Kai, seconded by Roxanne Ziegler, to adopt Resolution 98-30, approving the Thornydale Road IGA with Pima County. The motion carried 6/0. Hurvie Davis: I would just like to report that the Business Advisory Committee has been very complimentary of the staff's handling of this issue and I think that is worthy of note to the Council. I think they are doing something a lot differently with this project, the way staff is handling it, and I think it is probably going to be the model for the handling for all future roadway construction projects in our community. Ed Honea: I want to give a little bit of praise to Mr. Atler, myself. Reports back from the Chamber on the breakfast, there were a lot of business people from the area that attended the breakfast to find out what was happening. ]5 1998 They were very impressed with Mr. Atler and what he had to present, his cooperation and the information that they were going to be given on what was happening and when. I think the business people in all of these entities are really happy with Mr. Atler and his staff. They are doing an excellent job. H. Markefin(J of the Merana Public Transit Service and Update on RidershiD - Discussion/Action Hurvie Davis: We are talking about the marketing of our transit service that we recently inaugurated. It actually started operation in January from Happy Acres through Continental Ranch, through Ina/Thornydale, up to Foothills Mall, down to Northwest Hospital and then over to Orange Grove/Thomydale. Just this past Monday, we had a ribbon cutting ceremony to kick off that service officially, even though it was a couple of months late. It was really a way to market, or expose the service, to more people. Unfortunately, not that many people from the press showed up for the event. Never the less, someone asked me if I was disappointed with the ridership on the service so far. My background, my career, started out in public transit and I said, "No, not really. It would have been nice to have more ridership and interest in the service, but it is not surprising. Whenever you start out a new service, basically, it takes a lot of time and effort to get people to change their habits and start using public transit service." With continued emphasis on marketing and getting the information out to the public, hopefully we will gain additional ddership. As we gain additional ridership and the service becomes more utilized, then we can put more service on, which then attracts more people. Right now, as you know, it is limited service with about four round trips per day. You have to walk before you run, so it is a start and it is a start in the right direction. I think it will lead to bigger and better things for serving our community with public transit service. At this time, I will turn it over to Mr. Atler for more specifics on our marketing program and where we go from here. Mayor Harn: One thing that surprised me was that we had it at 8:15 in the morning and it was cold, yet we really did have a nice group of peopte come out. Two of the people that came out were officials from Northwest Hospital. Unfortunately, I did not know they were there and I didn't bring them forth. Later, that same day, I met with them for lunch. I had never met them before so I did not realize who they were. They are going to give this information to their doctors, nurses and people at the hospital so when people are making appointments, and so forth, from this area, they will be able to give them this information and work with them on making appointments at Northwest Hospital. The other thing that we talked about is that they would like to get more volunteers at Northwest Hospital and maybe, through this transit program and working with Continental Ranch and places that can now get transit to Northwest Hospital, they schedule their volunteer hours to coincide with the transit system that is going there. I think that is going to be a very good thing. I did not even get a chance to tell Dave this, so I think they will help us with our marketing scheme. 16 Hurvie Davis: Along those lines, if I may, there were two other people at that ribbon cutting ceremony. They were members of the Governor's task force on rail service between Phoenix and Tucson, and perhaps Nogales, and I happen to know one of them. I have known him as long as I have been in this region. I was talking to him about the fact that it would be nice, and probably needed, to have a stop for that rail service in the nodhwest area, the Marana area. You may have seen the article in the paper in the last day or so where they have recommended, or suggested, a stop in the Orange Grove or Ina Road area to serve the northwest, so we would not have to go to downtown Tucson to get the rail service to go to Phoenix. Dave After: Supervisor Sharon Bronson was there yesterday, as well, which was nice to see. If I can put a positive spin on the question that Mr. Davis was asked, yes we only had about 18 riders in February, but that was about a 400% increase over January. Ed Honea: I have a complaint. You know I work for the postal service and I had to deliver 500 of those big bulky post cards to my customers. Dave After: I would like to pass these out, and unfortunately I think there is only enough for the Council. This is our first mailing and we sent out almost 3,000. We have one more to go after these two. I hope there is not a copyright problem, we have "Come ride with us," which is a play on the Town's motto, we may have to sue ourselves. The next one announces our free ride week, which we started yesterday at the ribbon cutting. Ed Honea: I think all of the Council members should go ride the transit just once. Dave After: Roy and I are taking part of the trip Friday morning and we are not going to tell them we are with the Town, just to see if they show up on time. The bus is very comfodable, it is a nice bus, and very clean. Mayor Harn: Did we get coverage on Channel 137 I have gotten some questions from people so I thought maybe we had gotten some coverage. Channel 13 was out but they came forty-five minutes late. The bus was gone. Dave After: The advertising agency has notified the media, including the television stations. The word is getting out there, they may not spend the whole $4,800 that they had, that was the ceiling we put on it. We are trying to keep you up to date and come back next month and tell you we are up another 400% from February. We want to keep you up to date so you know where things stand. That is exciting about Nodhwest Hospital, they have been very key in this process since the very beginning and we made sure they were on the stops. Roxanne Ziegler: I was going to wait until the Mayor and Council report, but I guess I will do it now since everyone has added their accolades about Dave's performance at the BAC and it has been very exemplary, along with ]7 Derrick. At the last BAC, Roy and Jocelyn were there and Jocelyn said to the BAC that the Town would be willing to do some advertisement, some kind of media blitz or whatever, for the construction. We have tafked about it at the BAC meetings in great lengths, and I won't go into detail here, but this is why I think things are working as well as they are. Then Jocelyn brought up something about, maybe the Town doing something on the radio or the newspaper, and they really jumped on that. You may be hearing from them soon on that. In the turn around, they said they would help with this. They said they would put schedules and such in their businesses and they were very excited about it. I think they were a little disappointed because they did not even know this was going on. If we could bring a bunch of those flyers and stuff, rather than the schedules, to the next BAC meeting, if it would be cheaper, they will put them out. The signage is working excellent. We are very happy with the signage that is down at Cortaro and 1-10 right now. McDonald's, I was very surprised, had lost about 20% of its customers in the first week or so that construction started and once the signs went up he went back to even. Mike Osborne, from McDonald's is tickled to death. I was thrilled to hear that, I never thought it would work that well. State Legislative Issues Discussion/Action/Direction Regarding Pending Bills Before the Legislature Ed Honea: House Bill 2519. Mr. Hein is going to give us an update. Mike Hein: The last update I had, I believe I forwarded to your boxes. It was basically an alert from the League stating that the bill is kind of hovering in a strike all status. I think Dan was on top of it, as well, and sent us some memos. Basically, the League has been informed that they expect it to be attached to a bill at the eleventh hour in the House and then to be sent over to the full Senate. Right now it is buried in the Senate Committee, we didn't expect it to come out of the Senate Committee. However, similar to last year, we expect it to be resurrected at the eleventh hour. We don't know what bill they intend to attach it to yet, so it is hard to say. Needless to say, you have gotten a lot of correspondence and sample letters from other interested parties. I know this Council has not taken any formal action as a body, but certainly, individually, you are free to do whatever you may. Calling Senators would certainly be helpful. We, as staff, have been meeting with some members of the community who have been pushing for it and explaining what the Town has been doing and has not been doing. There were rumors that we were going to annex La Cholla Air Park and I basically said that I have never seen that in our general plan and I don't think we intend to look at La Cholla Air Park. I apologize but that is really as much as I know. Ed Honea: I have a question for Mr. Hochuli. Can we take an action, since this is an agenda item, or does it have to be more specific if we want to take an official action? Dan Hochuli: You can take an action, if it is your desire. This is agenda'd for you to take action on legislative issues. ]8 Ed Honea: Madam Mayor, I think that we should take an official position on this bill. Because, if it is attached to another bill as an amendment or a rider, at the eleventh hour, there is a very good possibility that this is going to get pushed through. I don't know if that is to our benefit. I don't know how the other Council members feel, but I think maybe we should take an action that we do not support this bill. You could sign the letter and we could send it up to the Representatives from our area. A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Herb Kal, to have the Town draft a letter for the Mayor's signature to be sent to the Representatives and Senators from our area, stating that the Town of Marana does not support House Bill 2519. The motion, as amended, carried 6/0. Mike Hein: I apologize for inserting during your discussion, but one thing I recommend is maybe consider reasons attached to your opposition. Perhaps the Council would consider saying, "We believe more discussion should take place. And, perhaps incorporation should face the same tests and challenges that annexations have to." Ed Honea: I agree and I would like to amend my motion to add that in there. Right now, it is cut and dried against our benefit. I don't think we want to say that we are not reasonable people, but I think there needs to be more discussion on this item before they start passing bills like this or completely eliminate it. Mayor Harn: I feel strongly that incorporations, like annexations, should be equal, the same restrictions for one as the other. Then, I would not have any problems with the distance. The Council will let Mr. Hein and myself draft up something, post haste. Ed Honea: I just think we need to take an official position. I think Oro Valley has taken an official position, now, as well. At least we will be on record and our senior staff people that are talking to legislators, or people from other towns or cities, will be able to say the Town has taken a position. Where, now their hands are kind of tied, even though they felt that we would not support the Bill. Mayor Harn: I would think that Mr. Hein and I, and maybe a couple of other people, could get together and make a trip up to Phoenix and visit with some of our legislators. I think that makes more of an impact than the letter, although we will send the letter and then try to do some lobbying also. Herb Kal: Do we need to hear from Brad? Do we have any water issues that have changed since the last meeting that you would like to bring to us, Brad? Brad DeSpain: In your packet, on the second page, Bulletin 7, paragraph 3, it kind of explains to you where everything is at. At this time in the session, the committee hearings are now completed in the House of origin of the bill. 19 : : : MINUTES OF~GULARCOUNCILMEETING Those hearings are completed and they go to the opposite House. There is some discussion taking place and some third readings on those bills. Some of the bills, then, are probably considered dead, although, the eleventh hour attachments can occur with water, as well. Mr. Condit is here, he may have heard something more than I have heard this week. Senate Bill 1246, I think, is considered to be kind of dead, but, again, it can be resurrected at any point. That is the Avra Valley bill for the City of Tucson. The 1302 Bill, which deals with the director having the authority to issue permits in our service area for other municipalities or water companies to drill wells, is still alive and well. We will probably continue to try to monitor that. The only part of that bill that is not already statute is that portion where you have to be notified as a municipality or a provider where before they just notified adjacent property owners or well owners. Pima A$~;ociation of Governments Regional Council Meeting Agenda - Review for Discussion and Direction Mayor Harn: You have before you the agenda of the PAG Management Committee. The Governing Commission is approximately the same issues. Are there any questions or any direction for Mr. Davis and myself. A motion was made by Vice Mayor Sutton, seconded by Ed Honea, to go into Executive Session. The motion carried 6/0. Council went into Executive Session at 8:40 PM. EXECUTIVE SESSION - Pursuant to A.R.S. 38-431.03 (A)(4) to consider the Town's Position and Instruct the Town Attorney Regarding All Pending and Contemplated Tax Litigation Between the Town of Marana and Li'l Abner's and Marana VS Bosse EXECUTIVE SESSION - Pursuant to A.R.S. Section 38-431.03 (A)(1) for Discussion or Consideration of Employment Issues and Compensation Relating to Mike Hein Council returned from Executive Session at 9:40 PM. Discussion and Action - Regarding All Pending and Contemplated Tax Litigation Between the Town of Marana and Li'l Abner's A motion was made by Vice Mayor Sutton, seconded by Mike Reuwsaat, that the Town settle all pending tax claims with Li'l Abners, LTD, as set forth in the proposed closing agreement presented to us and signed by David Hoffman. The motion carried 4/2. Councilman Honea and Councilwoman Ziegler voted no. 20 N. Discussion and Action Regarding Employment Issues and Compensation Relating to Mike Hein Vice Mayor Sutton: Do we need an effective date on this? Hurvie, would that be when the transition occurs or as of now? Hurvie Davis: That would be the Council's pleasure but I think it was intended to be at the time that I leave, but, so that the individual would know what is going to take place. A motion was made by Vice Mayor Sutton, seconded by Ed Honea, to hire Mr. Mike Hein into the manager position, when Mr. Davis leaves, at a salary of $72,500 per year plus $500 monthly vehicle allowance, plus all entitlements due to Marana employees. The motion carried 6/0. O. Mayor and Council's Report Herb Kal: i had lunch with Supervisor Mike Boyd and Council member Fred Ronstadt, from the City of Tucson, and Council member Dick Johnson, from Oro Valley. Basically, Ore Valley has concerns about the Tortolita annexation and the Town of Casas Adobes. They feel that the Casas Adobes annexation may go through and they are indicating that they would like to sit down with our staff and maybe draw some boundaries that use Shannon Road as Marana's eastern boundaries. That is to try to set out some guidelines where the towns wouldn't be squabbling over certain areas. I told them that I would pass it on to the Council. I am trying to get some report going there. Vice Mayor Sutton: With the birth of my third child, I was kind of busy with that. I have been trying to help the Chamber with the golf tournament and doing what I can to help Founders Day. I did some other things, too, but it is kind of a blur now. Mayor Harn: Some of the staff and I met with Kaneen Advertising, to talk with them about how we could do a better job with getting our story out to the public and working with some of our events in the Town, and so forth. We are trying to work to improve that and work toward my goal of uniting our community. We put together a letter for the postal authorities to voice our concerns about the post office. I attended the ribbon cutting for the transit and it was very heartening to see Sharon Bronson there, early in the morning, supporting that. She also reminded me that she will be here for the Founders Day event. I rode in the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Tucson, today, and talked with Janet Marcus, Shirley Scott and Fred Ronstadt, inviting them to come out, on Saturday, to our event. I said to them that some of us, in Marana, make an effort to get in a ride at the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Tucson and it would be nice if some of them made an effort to get out to Marana and do a few things out there. Hurvie Davis and I did an interview on TV for the Founders Day Event. I have never seen it on TV so I don't know if it has ever gone over, but we had a good time doing it. Hurvie and Mike and I met with Bill Wiggins, the gentleman who is going to do the lead plating. He 2] is anxious and it is on the way, it is going to happen. I am like Bobby, I am trying to read at the different schools for the children and the reading programs. I also attended the event of our Eagle Scout that was here today. I think it is good to encourage youngsters who are doing community projects like that, so I attended. It was very cold. It is so good having Mike and Jocelyn work with me, we are doing a lot of correspondence and writing, with their encouragement and help. It is good to have them working with me to keep us corresponding with people that we should be. P. Mana_oer's Report Hurvie Davis: Last Wednesday evening, we had Supervisor Bronson out here for her Town Hall meeting. It was well attended by the Town. We did not have that many public members, from the general public and so forth, but it was a very good session. She brought a number of County staff out and we had a lot of interaction on a number of issues and so forth. Mayor Ham, Council member Kal, and a lot of staff were here. Also, last week, Mr. Hein and I met with representatives from Sportspark on their plans to expand the park and the activities in the park. As you might recall, we have met with them a number of times and they would like to expand that park. It is a County owned park, the grounds are owned by the County and the facilities on it are built by Sportspark. It is sort of like the Airport, at some point in time, those become County property and so forth. They would like to do some business with Marana, much like the Avra Valley Airport. That is something that we will continue to hear from more in the future. Also, early last week, I attended the dedication of the City of Tucson Van Tran facility, that is the facility on the south side, just off of Ajo Way, for the van service to provide rides for the disabled in the community. It is a six million dollar facility with a very nice building. It is efficient and has the operations and administration in. As you know, that may one day become a part of our disabled transit service, if we set up a regional transit authority and it expands to become a regional authority. The County, off and on, over the years, has looked at contracting for that service with the City. Most of the time they have gone with private operators, but at some point in time, it will probably become a regional operation, along with the urban transit system. A couple of other things I had on here Mayor Harn mentioned, so I won't go into those. FUTURE AGENDAITEMS Vice Mayor Sutton: Mike and Hurvie, we might be able to add this to what we had under the consent agenda, tonight, about the four way stop. There is a concern of what lane you get in to go straight across to Quick Mart. Out of three cars, they will choose that middle lane, that is not a lane, it is the right lane. Maybe we need to find a way to stripe that correctly or start ticketing people for going straight across. I have seen people use both of them and then almost hit each other in the median. Let's look into that and see if we can avoid some accidents. It does not have to be an agenda item. 22 MINUTES OF REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING XI. ADJOURNMENT A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Vice Mayor Sutton, to adjourn. The motion passed 6/0. CERTIFICATION I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are the true and correct minutes of the Marana Town Council held on March 17, 1998. I further certify that a quorum was present. ERK 23