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HomeMy WebLinkAbout12/16/1997 Regular Council Meeting MinutesII. III. IV. Marana Town Hall, December 16, 1997 By Mayor Ora Harn at 7:02 P.M. pLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Led by Mayor Ora Harn INVOCATION Led by Mayor Ora Harn COUNCIL Ora Harn Bobby Sutton, Jr. Ed Honea Herb Kal Sherry Millner Michael Reuwsaat Roxanne Ziegler Mayor, excused Vice Mayor Council Member Council Member, excused Council Member Council Member Council Member STAFF Hurvie Davis Michael Hein Dan Hochuli Sandy Greseclose Jane Johnson Dave Smith Floyd Foster Brad DeSpain Jerry Flannery Joel Shapiro John Siath Town Manager Assistant Town Manager Town Attorney Town Clerk Human Resources Director Chief of Police Water Operations Manager Utilities Director Planning Director/Annexing Principal Planner/Annexing Engineering Consultant, Roads APPROVAL OFAGENDA A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Mike Reuwsaat, to approve the agenda, as written. The motion carried 5/0. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Roxanne Ziegler, to accept the minutes of Regular Council Meeting on December 2~d and the Study Session on December 2nd. The motion carried 4/0. Mike Reuwsaat abstained from voting. Herb Kal arrived on Dais at 7:05. CALL TO THE PUBLIC/ANNOUNCEMENTS Vice Mayor Sutton: As some of you may remember, I had initiated a Marana Youth Fund, of about $100 per month, for activities they are.doing to be productive in the community to better themselves and to stay in school. Hopefully, this will serve as some publicity to let people know that any youth in the Town of Marana can apply for it. It is brand new so we don't really have a process, but not many people ara applying for it right now. I did receive Stephanie's name today. Stephanie is a student at Marana High School and is a mother. She has stayed in school and was on the volleyball team and is now on the basketball team. She seemed to be a good candidate for this so we are going to award her the $100 to off set the cost of being on the basketball team. Congratulations. Sandy Groseclose: Since Mayor Harn is not able to be here, she asked if I would thank the following individuals for putting on our 1st Annual Holiday Tree Lighting Festival last weekend: Pauline Nunez, Jane Johnson, Lieutenant Dale Bradshaw, the Marana Police Explorer Post 77, Dennis Dolan, Charlie Villescaz, Israel Villa, Larry and Janet Esparza, Patrick Johnson, Johnny Carranza, George Pesina, Jaydawson Phillip, Darice Larriva, Adam Rivera, Northwest Fire, Lynda Smothers, Sandy Groseclose, Marana Grocery, Fry's Food Store, Shamrock Food Store, Kaycee Hay Sales, Inc., Estes Elementary School, Coyote Trails Elementary School, Roadrunner Elementary School and the Pima County after school program at Estes. It was a grand success and the children loved it immensely. Santa Clause came in on the fire truck, thera was face painting, games, crafts, hay rides and refreshments. The children made all of the decorations that are on the tree out here and hopefully there are some left after the rains. Everyone had a wonderful time. Look for it next year. Ed Honea: Tomorrow is the monthly Chamber luncheon. It is going to be an open house at the Chamber of Commerce. They will serve you a lunch if you go down there between 12:00 and 2:00 PM. The open house will be until 7:00 PM and there will be soda and beer available. You can see the Desert Legends Trading Post which is a lot of Native American arts and crafts. It is coming along real well and I encourage everyone to try to stop by. STAFF REPORTS No action taken. GENERAL ORDER OF BUSINESS A. PUBLIC HEARING: Ordinance No. 97.36 and ResolutioI1 No. 97-124 - Amendments to Section 04.05 "Development Agreements" of the Marana Land Use and Development Code: consideration and Adoption of Amendments to Section 04.05 Amending the Notice and Public Hearing Requirements for Development Agreements Other Than Those Created Pursuant to the Provisions of Section 4.06 "Reimbursements for Public Improvements". Discussion/Action Hurvie Davis: In 1995, we adopted the Fair Share Ordinance, relating to public improvements being made by developers and it was a mechanism that would allow them to recover part of their costs. The facility would be utilized by other developers. When we did that, we went before the Planning Commission and the Town Council for approval. This led to even the most basic development agreement going into the process, all development agreements were required to go before the Planning Commission and the Town Council. What we are proposing now is that the basic development agreements can come directly before the Town Council again, instead of having to go before the Planning Commission first. Mr. Flanneryjust recently took this issue to the Planning Commission, he can report on the Commission's action. Jerry Flannery: Kelly Schwab and brought this to the Planning Commission on December 10th. They had some small additions and corrections, which were made by Kelly Schwab. Kelly Schwab: The Planning Commission forwarded a recommendation of approval of the amendments as they were highlighted in your packet material. The first change was on page 6, paragraph I, to reinsert the provision that requires the Town Council to hold a public hearing on the development agreements contemplated under this provision if requested by the party aggrieved or any member of the council. The second change was at the bottom of page 6, to state that the Planning Director has the authority to reduce the fee if the cost of publication were significantly lower than the application fee. Jerry Flannery: To clarify, I believe that what was in your packets originally was the modifications as they went to the Planning Commission. Over the last few days, you received the proposed modifications as they came out of the Planning Commission. You should have both sets in front of you. We would just ask that the motion specify Resolution 97-124 as it existed prior to Commission or as it existed subsequent to Commission recommendation. That way we can clarify which of the two versions the motion relates to. A motion was made by Ed Honea, and seconded by Sherry Millner, to accept Ordinance No. 97.36 and Resolution No. 97-124 as it exists subsequent to the Planning Commission's actions, adopting the amendment to section 04.05 of the Land Use and Development Code modifying the adoption procedure for development agreement. Motion carried 5/1. Mike Reuwsaat voted no. B. Welcome Sign - Request for Approval by the Marana FFA (Future Farmers of America) to Recondition the Welcome Sign at Marana Road and Sandario Road and to Have the Town Relocate Mounted Horse and Mountain Scene. Discussion/Action Hurvie Davis: A couple of years ago, we worked with the Tucson Pima County Arts Council to put a Town identification sign up. The location chosen was at Marana and Sandario Road at the entrance to town off the Interchange. The site for that project was right in front of the Welcome to Marana sign. The Future Farmers of America have indicated a desire to come in and recondition the original sign and monument. They have asked the Town to relocate the signs put in through the Tucson Arts Council. Those projects were done with special federal transportation dollars and had to be within the public right-of-way. Staff is not aware, at this time, if we they have to be in a public right-of-way or if they can be in a park when they are relocated. Some further research is needed prior to taking the sign out, the issue is whether or not the Council wants to take them out. The next thing will be where to relocate them. Mike Reuwsaat: I would like to continue this item until those questions are answered. I don't want to see this in the park, I think it is an attractive nuisance and it will become a piece of playground equipment. If it was moved to the park, it would need to be fenced off for safety purposes. I know equipment costs ars a concern and we might want to check with Cortaro and see if they have a lift that could handle it and our company might have a flatbed to transport it. Sherry Millner: Why do they want to move it? Hurvie Davis: I am not sure. I have not personally communicated with them. I think a representative is here to answer questions. My general understanding is that it tends to block the view of the original Welcome to Marana sign. Sarah Fellars, 8100 North Fellars Well Trail: At one of our recent meetings we brought this issue up to recondition the sign and get it into better shape. This way we could represent Marana better. With the horse and rider and the mountain artwork being in the position it is, you can not see the Welcome to Marana sign. A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, and seconded by Roxanne Ziegler, to continue this item so staff can do more research on the . possibility of moving the sign. The motion carried 6/0. Roxanne Ziegler: I don't know if I should address Mr. Davis on this or someone else, but something like this is inadequate. I could not make a decision on this if I tried. We need to know how much, where, when and who is going to move it. I wanted to pull this from the agenda, but it was too late. In the future I would like to be sure that we don't have to continue things, that we have all of the information. I know you know what we need. Hurvie Davis: You are right. To come before you, we should have thoroughly addressed the issue so the only thing you would have to decide at the time is if you agree to moving the latest artwork put in and approve the location it will be moving to. The cost and such should already be known. That is what we will be bringing before you at a later date. A. Academy Without Walls - Presentation by Klm Holoway, Principal, Marana Plus, Marana Unified School District to Request Future Funding Assistance. Discussion/Action Mike Hein: I am not very familiar with this issue, outside of some of the correspondence I have seen. I believe the principle is in the audience and wants to give a brief presentation. Klm Holoway, 1455 West Ladelle Dr.: I would like to thank the Council for the opportunity to be here and I appreciate your time and interest in this item. Basically, what I have brought before you is a proposal for a pilot work experience program for Marana students to work in Marana businesses. For the benefit of the audience and the Council, I will briefly try to describe it and outline what I have given you in your packets. I also have two members from the Metropolitan Education Commission here with me who are available to answer any questions, as well. They are June Webb-Vignery and Fran Senechal. They have been working with Academy Without Walls for several years in other parts of our County. They maybe able to share some insight into how some of the partnerships have worked. Marana Plus was able to obtain this school-to-work grant which has enabled us to train the teachers at this school through Keen Software Company (a support company for Microsoft Products). They have trained the staff in some of the newest software and the teachers have integrated the software into the curriculum. This is something we hope to replicate at our two high schools, right now we are the pilot site. The different courses it has been integrated in are our elective Career class, our senior required Government class and all of our English classes for high school students. What this means is that the students might use the Internet for certain assignments, Microsoft Word to type research papers or other assignments, spreadsheets help them in the math area. We are really trying to bring this most recent technology into the classroom. The other piece to this is we want these students to be able to go out into the community and work in some kind of business that would be using the software so they could put these skills to use and benefit the businesses. I have presented a proposed budget along with this. Roxanne Ziegler: I had a pretty extensive conversation with Klm. Klm, thank you for coming. I also made copies and presented it to the Business Advisory Committee last Tuesday evening. They were very receptive of it. I did it at the end of the meeting and asked them to take it home and look it over. They were very encouraged, especially about the part of them not having to pay, and asked me to ask a couple of questions. I have participated in a program like this a couple of times and it is very good for the community. I think you will find that kids learn a lot of things.in school but they need to be in the community to learn how to interface with people. This is a wonder[ul way to give them some kind of experience in interfacing with the public. Klm, I would like to invite you to the BAC meeting in January to present this to them. I don't think you would have any trouble placing these kids. Sherry Miliner: I totally support your school and I think it is a very good idea. The way our society is going, we need kids to learn these skills to provide them with a different career field than they had in the past. Why would they only work one month? Klm Holloway: I have talked to Mayor Ham a couple of times, and from a school district stand point, I know budgets are set way in advance. To come to you now, for something in the current budget year, would not be appropriate. So, I was looking for something that would be in the 1998-1999 budget year. This is also what Mayor Harn suggested, coming to you before your budget was finalized. In order to do that, the project would start on July 1st. There is not any reason why it couldn't be carried over to. the following June. This was just a starting point. This is not set in concrete, it was basically an example. Sherry Millner: How are the students going to be chosen, I know there are a lot of students? Kin Holloway: I think it would be advantageous to have someone on the Town staff work with me on the selection precess, or perhaps a committee. I would be willing to work on this, but I don't want to be the sole decision maker. Nothing in the budget relates to me or my salary and I am very willing to volunteer my time. I feel very strongly about getting this going. Mike Reuwsaat: You have my vote but I would like to see about the possibility of the businesses who participate paying half the wages. This would increase the numbers so more students could participate. The other thing is, if public agencies and departments would fit within the mold, I would like to see the Town of Marana get involved with that. I think it would be an asset to have some of these students within the Town of Marana. The larger issue is, I would like to see a particular allocation of funds in next year's budget and allow for an open process for other groups to look at this issue. We need to have guidelines set up and make sure our money goes where we believe it is important. Roxanne Ziegler: On your proposed budget, the $6,960, is FICA, Workmen's Comp, etc. included in this proposal? Klm Holloway: Yes, everything is included in that total. Ed Honea: You have my vote, as well. This is a perfect situation for CDBG and we should start getting this in the loop. When Don Hawkins came last year for a similar program, we turned it down. But, his proposal was a lot more vague and for a lot more money. These programs work tremendously and CDBG loves this type of stuff, where you are working with young people and integrating them into society and the business community. I certainly do not have a problem with us funding it to start, but I would like to see it get into the loop and have it be funded with CDBG moneys. Kim Holloway: I did meet with Mr. Groseclose last month but we did not get very far. I was certainly willing to write that with him. He told me in November that he would check on it and get back to me. When I checked with him about 10 days ago, there was not anything on the books, yet. That was Mayor Harn's suggestion, as well, to work with Pledge-a-job and CDBG funds so we can get to more students. I have talked with Pledge-a-job and that is a possibility. They are very interested in working in the Marana area. I talked to Robin Long, who heads that program, and she sent me some brochures in the mail today. I can leave those with Sandy tonight and she can get them to you. She and I have put in the motions already to get that going. Pledge-a-job is a program where businesses actually say, "1 will pledge a job for so many weeks in the summer for a youth in the area." Then there is a structure to match students with work place and employers. They do extensive pre-employment scanning and I have her scheduled to come to my school and do it with all of the students. I think it is very valuable. So, whether they actually get into a work site this coming summer or not, I think the skills will be valuable to them. Perhaps I can work on some of these ideas with somebody. I could, then, come back to you with additional information on different things we could get going for the youth. Herb Kai: This is a great program. Vice Mayor Sutton: I don't think a motion is necessary but I think staff can see there is a general consensus that we do want to see this during budget consideration to allocate the moneys we need from the next fiscal budget to support this program. Also, we need to coordinate and find all options available and maybe even expand the program. A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Sherry Millner, that this be in next year's fiscal budget. The motion carried 6/0. B. This item has been settled and removed from the agenda Consideration Regarding SDrinkler System Waiver or Alternative Solution - for the Building at 13897-13901 N. Sandario Road, Request by David and Tina Cook. Discussion/Action E. Resolution No. 97-125: La Mirage Estates. Request for Approval of a 508 Lot Single Family Detached Home Subdivision Preliminary Plat with a 9-Hole Executive Golf course on 138.27 Acres in a Portion of the North % of Section 26, Township 11 South, Range 11 East, Within the Rancho Marana Specific Plan Area. Applicant is ICON Consultants USA, Inc., 1870 W. Prince Road, Suite #11, Tucson, AZ 85705. (Continued from October 7, 1997) Discussion/Action Donald Brooks, ICON Consultants USA, Inc., 1931 W. Grant Road, Suite 350: I would like to bring up some exhibits before I get started. We really appreciate the opportunity to present this project to you tonight. This project has a long history and a lot of work behind it. It is a fairly substantial project for the Town of Marana. It is the first major project of its kind immediately east of the freeway. This project was previously rezoned in the Rancho 7 Marana Specific Plan and previously tentative platted in 1994 and 1995. For the sake of clarity during my presentation, I have two exhibits. The one on top shows the plat approved in 1995 and the one below shows the plat as it is proposed today. We have been working on this since 1993 and we spent almost two years in extensive work with your staff and the town consultants. At that time we developed a master hydrology plan for the original plat and undertook preliminary archeology evaluation. We did a site specific hydrology plan, geotechnical studies, three traffic studies, a 208 amendment for a sewage treatment plant, a certificate of assured water supply study and approval of that certificate. After 18 months of close work with staff and two Planning and Zoning hearings and a Town Council hearing,, we obtained approval of this project. After our client evaluated some of the issues on construction costs and looked for a local builder, he decided to reconflgure the project. The plats are now smaller and a nine hole golf course has been added. The purpose of the change was to increase the efficiency of the on-site grading, provide for on-site storm water harvesting, provide for effluent reuse and effluent storage on-site and to create overall a much better project with more recreational space. We had an extensive Planning and Zoning Commission hearing in August 1997 and in October 1997 we had this scheduled and it was continued until tonight. I have about 2 ~ boxes of studies done on this project. We take the public safety very seriously and we have had a number of discussions with the residents of Adonis. There are some issues at Adonis, and on this side of the Town of Marana, that we feel are very important to recognize and appropriately deal with. We have had some excellent feed back from staff, as well as some council members, and members of the public. One of our efforts in association with working on this plat is to help the residents of Adonis with the sewage lagoon problem there. The 208 amendment approved for this project anticipated hooking them up into that treatment plant. We have attended meetings and talked to the residents as a pro bono effort to help with that. The other benefits we obtained in the prior plat were the assured water supply and the 208 amendment for the sewage plant. The problems in the area that we are acutely aware of are access issues, sewer issues, water issues and emergency service issues. All of these are currently problems for the residents of Adonis and everyone on the east side of the freeway. There are basically two public accesses. One across the railroad tracks and one crossing the freeway at Trico-Marana. The access today is up Grier Road and over to the Amole Crossing and down to Trico-Marana Road. The sewer issue, today, consists of passive lagoons at Adonis. This project created a 208 amendment and has approval to construct a sewage treatment plant. The water problems at the time were that there was no assured water supply. We obtained one for the Town because one was needed. Access and emergency service are still a concern for us. This project provides a vehicle for solving these problems, it is not intended to create these problems. We have an opportunity, through this plat, to provide alternative means of access, to provide water pressure and storage for fire flow (which is not there today) and we have a potential to provide emergency services. Mr. Doerken has offered to make a lot available to an emergency services organization to provide services on this side of the track. There is a private crossing that exists on the south east corner near Mr. Doerken's property. In 1994 we agreed to update that crossing to a public crossing. The Frontage Road all the way back to Trico-Marana is two-way, which would provide in and out traffic along that frontage road. If trans are three miles long, we basically have a two mile separation between those crossings and you can get across those tracks in a short period of time. We are here to solve problems, we are very concerned about the issues and we have done a tremendous number of studies. The prior traffic studies, although they did not show a level of servants warrants for transportation improvements, we felt it was appropriate and beneficial to the community to provide this other crossing and we would like to do it with this plat. These improvements need to be phased with the project so the developer can proceed in good faith and can obtain a reasonable amount of lots initially and can take the time (2-3 years of working with the railroad is what is anticipated) to get a good public crossing at this location. We have worked quite a bit with the residents of Adonis but we have not had any opportunity to hear any of their comments tonight. I know some of them have passed in cards to speak and, with your indulgence, I request you to allow them to speak to this issue and then I can come back up and address their comments and concerns. Phyllis M. Farenga, 11470 W. Tortolita Street: I am here to represent the Marana Estates Association located at Amole Circle and Tortolita. We are not opposed to this project but we have some serious concerns, which were already raised. One is the Health/Welfare Safety liability and emergency response issues in this area. We have only one ingress/egress area and in that area there have been several train derailments. During one of these instances, we were cut off from our homes for 24 hours. If you could imagine an emergency happening during that same time, there is no way to get into that area except by helicopter. Residents in my area are very afraid of a "death trap nightmare situation" similar to what we find on Cortaro Farms Road. They offer a solution in their alert flyer to open up the old railroad crossing near Moore Road. They feel it should be opened up at the beginning of the development. There are some sewage water/flood way problems that we have out there. Will development downstream effect our property upstream? Ronald Golden, 10761 W. Grier Road: Grier Road is the main road that all of the construction equipment will be going over, unless they put that other crossing in first. I have a letter I would like to read it: It has come to our attention that in the Adonis area, the owner of La Mirage, Peter Doerken, is ready to start construction. He is going on the purpose that the construction traffic will need to use our road during this process. It had been suggested that a road for this and for the new residents would be built. Now, he states that he will not be able to build a road until the construction is finished and half of the homes in the project are sold. He could use the access road to the old farm house and save our road. Our road cannot hold up to that kind of traffic, it built only to sustain the 147 families that live here and from Amole Circle. As it is, we have 14 school buses traveling through here and any additional use, especially heavy construction trucks, will quickly deteriorate our road. What will happen, then, and who will be responsible for the repairs? We respectfully request that Mr. Doerken be asked to reconsider these plans, as per previous conversations with his representatives at the beginning of this project, so we may have the use of our road in a safe and pleasant manner. Thank you. Annie Shellberg, 10650 N. Longview Ave.: I am the mail carrier for Adonis and I just heard about this recently. I am concerned about my own safety and the safety of all the children who are not always attended, in Adonis. There are a couple of big concerns that I think someone should be handling. One of the bridges going under the railroad is not blocked off and has complete access. Cars are using this, now, to go from Adonis to the Frontage Road to avoid having to go all the way around Amole, this saves about four miles. There are actually worn tracks there so you know this is happening quite often. There are kids playing there all of the time, Brian Plum was hit by a train out there. With this already being a problem, I can't imagine adding another 500 homes without addressing any of these issues. The other issue is that the access read goes both ways all the way up to the second crossing (which apparently is a private crossing), and as I come down the Frontage Road from Tangerine Road to Adonis I have had people coming at me with their headlights on. What happens is they take the second crossing, not realizing it does not go all the way to Tangerine and instead of turning around and going all the way back, they drive to the dirt part and take that up to Tangerine. I really think there should be a Tangerine access, whether it be the builder's responsibility or the Town's responsibility to build it. What if they get half way through the project and get 200 homes built and they don't sell, or it is just not going as planned, and they decide not to build the rest of it, you still have all that traffic using one crossing. The railroad crossing there, where you stop to go across the tracks, can hold three cars at the most so they will be piling up on the Frontage Road if they get stopped. I would like to see an allotment of land put over there to be used for schools because I think another school is going to be necessary later on. The last thing is, the road that curves around three times going in and out of Adonis gets so flooded when it rains that you cannot get out of Adonis. One of the lanes is completely cut off. The last time it rained I could not use that road for four days because it took that long for the water to dry up. School buses and residents are all coming around that flooded corner and people are having to watch for people coming the other direction because there is only one lane open, yet it is hard to see around that corner. It is a huge disaster waiting to happen. Ed Honea: Mr. Brooks, I was concerned about the traffic problem. When we talked originally, looking at some of the past paperwork on this plan, several times it was mentioned (I even have your signature on this) that this was intended to be a senior project. One of the reasons I was happy with that is because they would probably make less trips if they did not have any kids to run back and forth. And I think they would be a little bit more careful in their driving habits. I understand that this has gone by the way side, now. That had to do with the lots being cut in half, from 8,000 square foot lots with 5 parts on the original plan to a smaller area with basically lots about half the size and adding the golf course on the next plan. I have some problems with that. Who is going to use this golf course, anyway? Is the Town going to make a profit on it? What are your intentions for the golf course? Jerry Flannery: The seniors focus for the project has not gone by the way side. The concerns you expressed are concerns for us, as well. The ]0 marketing focus of the project is seniors. The only issue that came up that was sticky was if we do an age restricted community, how do we meet the federal guidelines to insure age restriction conformance. They are not that easy, they are fairly tough. That raised a whole series of issues that had not been investigated previously because we assumed that market sources would control the users to a large extent. The lots are geared toward older folks who want Iow- to no-care yards and want a nice house. Mr. Doerken's attorney is here tonight and he might be able to address the age restricted issues better. Mr. Doerken is here, as well, and I would like him to address the golf course issues. Vice Mayor Sutton: I would like to have Peter address the access issue, which is probably the biggest problem. Maybe we can hold the golf course off a little bit until we get to the access issue. Roxanne Ziegler: The zoning on the property does not specify single family homes or age restricted so there really is an issue there. Jerry Flannery: The zoning on the property permits the type of density, it does not specifically state whether it is age restricted or not. It does not limit one way or the other. Herb Kal: I would like Mr. Brooks to elaborate on the rail road crossing. Possibly use that as your main entrance and not going through Adonis's road. Donald Brooks: I have heard a clear message tonight about the construction traffic and traffic in general on Grier Road and in front of Adonis. We had originally anticipated that we would connect across what is now a private crossing onto the two-way frontage road. The only issue of concern with Mr. Doerken on that is the timing with respect to processing it with Southern Pacific. As soon as the plat is approved, he would like to apply to the rail road to get that made into a public crossing. We need the Town to ask for the application. Mr. Doerken is willing to expend the funds to create a public crossing at that location and to make that a safe crossing for most of the traffic on this project. We anticipate that since the frontage road is a shorter trip to Trico-Marana and it is two-way it would take a lot of the use off Adonis. I made the suggestion to my client that we propose tonight to make that the primary construction entrance, as well. Maybe he can make an arrangement with the rail road and with the private property owners for that to be used for construction purposes. I don't know if I am answering your questions. Vice Mayor Sutton: I have a concern, which you brought up, about the railroad taking 2-3 years and using the access at Adonis. That problem, apparently, is not going to be solved for a couple of years. Donald Brooks: We wanted to build the project in 5 phases, each phase being about 100 lots. The original plat recommended after the first three phases, that an alternate crossing had to be in place and open to the public. ]] We have worked on the railroad crossings previously, in regard to the construction access, and there are alternatives to keeping it as a private crossing and using it for construction traffic without the swing arms, lights and gates. It takes the railroad a year just to design the gates, even though they look the same on every one they want a year to design and a year of financing discussions. We see this as a phase issue. If Mr. Doerken proceeds with enough lots that he can sell them during that interim period and keep the financing going with the railroad crossing and the other improvements he is going to have to make, we think it is a win-win situation. It is probably the only way it is going to go public. I am open for suggestions, we are here to make this project work as a benefit to an area that we see as having a lot of difficulties. I certainly appreciate your indulgence in this opportunity. Roxanne Ziegler: I think that Annie Shellberg brought out a lot of points that the Town is remiss in. The problems that we have there were there before you came and I don't think it is right to expect you to fix them all. I do think we have an opportunity, and I hope everyone realizes this, to get a lot done with your help. I don't know how long it would take the Town to do this. I know folks have lived out there a long time and have not seen improvements made as fast as they would probably like to. I encourage us to look at this in a positive way and have a "How can we help him?" attitude. The off site roads for access, according to your phasing on sheet 10 of your plat, will be completed in phase 4. Would you move that up? Donald Brooks: The first 2 phases would be completed and no further building permits would be issued until that was constructed. Looking at it from a businessman's perspective, he would have 300 lots sitting there and not be able to do anything with them until he gets that in. He will be very motivated to get it in, and quickly. It allows him time to get the first lots going so he can make it a practical application to the railroad. They will need to see justification that there is going to be enough cars crossing to make it a public crossing. I appreciate your comments, Vice Mayor and Councilwoman Ziegler, because we are here to make this an interval part of solving these problems. We have an interest in making Adonis a better situation by dealing with the sewage treatment problem, providing fire flow pressure and access alternatives. Another access alternative, I have not mentioned yet, is make the connection at Tangerine Road. There are a lot of other properties in there and we have been talking to various property owners to see the feasibility of it. I would propose, if Mr. Doerken is agreeable, that either one or the other would be open in accordance with that same phasing schedule. We would like to have the opportunity to continue working with these other property owners to provide a connection down at Tangerine. Understand, from his position, that he needs to know that he has a reasonable basis of assurance before he undertakes all of these additional costs. He has some other people later to deal with and so far they have been pretty cooperative because they have to face the same situation. I think we would have support from staff and the residents and other property owners to make either one or both of those crossings work as soon as possible. Roxanne Ziegler: One of the other council members asked what you expect to do with the golf course, I assume that you expect people to play golf. You have phase five as the club house but you are building the golf course as phase one. Are you going to have a trailer or something for people to utilize for paying fees and such? I would like to see it bumped up to maybe phase two. Donald Brooks: I would have to refer that to Mr. Doerken, we have not discussed it yet. The plat states that it is private, I don't know what type of membership availability there will be for the public. Roxanne Ziegler: I was told that you were at least thinking about putting in a park. Donald Brooks: The space available for the clubhouse is over large for the needs of a clubhouse because we wanted to have some flexibility for additional recreational space. The staff and some council members made it clear to us that it would really help this project and we agree. We would like to make a park site on the same site as the clubhouse. Peter Doerken: Any result in recommendations from this meeting will be reflected in the plat. Donald Brooks: Mr. Doerken has advised me that he sees the golf course and clubhouse as an amenity for the community. He would like to make it available, on a private membership basis, to the public at a nominal cost. Ed Honea: If the clubhouse is slated to be built in phase five, what do the 400 families that are there prior to phase five do for recreation. Basically, 500 families will be there before you build the clubhouse. This seems kind of like the "cart before the horse" and I would like to see the clubhouse come in during phase one or phase two. This would provide a place to recreate and it is another way to keep the children away from the railroad. We have an attractive nuisance across from you and we had an unfortunate incident within the last year. A lot of young people will walk across the railroad track, under the drainage on the freeway, go over to the junior high and play at the park. If you put some of your amenities in early, as you start filling in the open land, you will have a place for all of these people who are coming to recreate. Donald Brooks: These are very good points. Mr. Doerken says he would like to make the clubhouse phased, also. There would be an interim facility that would expand with the expansion of the plat. I think your suggestion of the first facility being installed after the first phase of construction is definitely warranted. Ed Honea: Would that include the park, as well? Would you start phasing it in as far as turf and maybe something recreational (basketball courts or tennis courts)? ]3 Peter Doerken: I feel that perhaps some of this focus needs to be redirected a little bit. This entire community has been conceived and will be marketed as a seniors' community. Legally, I have been advised, I cannot keep children out. I do not plan, under any circumstance, to have facilities for children in this project. There will be a park with some tennis courts (possibly some basketball courts) and probably some shuffleboard courts, but not a playground. The whole emphasis on this project is toward seniors; not children or first time home buyers. The golf course is a nine hole executive golf course, not a championship golf course, specifically designed for seniors and people who may not be able to hit the ball the distance of a 25 year old. As such, this is the whole focus of the project. The clubhouse was possibly misinterpreted as being complete in phase five. We certainly need, from a marketing standpoint, to have a good portion of these facilities in place (such as a clubhouse, a pool, a Jacuzzi and meeting rooms for various groups within the community) right from the get go, and not even at the end of phase one. That is where we are headed with this. When people are talking about kids coming in and shooting hoops and things, I am not sure that we would want any children in this community, it would be diametrically opposed to what we are trying to create. We want an adult, senior resort type community. Sherry Millner: As most of you know, I am not for turning Marana into a senior community with 20 golf courses. I have just recently found out how we water our golf courses and I would like to know what you will be using to water your golf course. Peter Doerken: We will be using both ground water and recleaned water. We have grandfather water rights with this property that are probably 1000% of all the water we ever could conceivably use on this project. In addition to that, we plan to use recleaned water as it meets the proper and appropriate governmental standards. One of the issues a few years ago, when Tucson Water was in the picture, was Marana being adamant about not wanting any of their groundwater or effluent accruing to Tucson Water, we completely agree. One of the main reasons, both from a grading cost perspective and from an on site storage of storm water perspective, has been the construction of the golf course. We can make the pond areas as deep as we need to in order to achieve this. That way we will be able to capture a lot of the storm water that would otherwise sheet flow across the property and use it to pump and irrigate the golf course. Roxanne Ziegler: Mr. Doerken, I appreciate your candidness in saying that your are going to have a seniors' group out there. However, you have a zoning that says you can have either one. Your attorney is here and he typed a letter here which very nicely states what we can and can not do. You have hit just about every one of our concerns, but I am still concerned about the roads and how to get in and out. Maybe our staff can look into this a little bit more. Peter Doerken: Perhaps I can try to address that. I think we are all aware of what exists there, today. I am very keenly aware of the reality that I am ]4 going to have to do something in order to market this project, even if I didn't care about anything else. Access is a major issue and has been mentioned in our feasibility analysis. There has to be a plan, which we thought we had, to address this adequately. I don't want anyone, under any circumstance, to bare any burden or cost at all for what we are doing. We feel very strongly that we are solving some major problems that exist today. On the other hand, we don't want to be held hostage in the development of this program for the correction of a lot of preexisting conditions. We would keep and maintain the Adonis read, as it exists today, and not build a new read. If there is damage, just call us and we will fix it. Meanwhile, we will be pursuing the railroad crossing and the connection at Tangerine Road. The whole concept of rights, which has been brought up several times tonight, is not my philosophy. This is either going to be good for everybody or good for nobody. When I got this property in 1992, I came to the Town and met with the "Powers That Be" and I asked how my property would be of best use to the Town? I was told, at that time, that there was a need for 800 units of housing that had been unmet. I made the commitment to the Town and its officials, at that time, to do the best I was capable of to help. That is how this whole project got started. I have spent 5 years of hard work and well over a quarter of a million dollars in bringing this where it is today. We are continuing and we want to make a substantial investment in the community. When I hear "whose rights" it is kind of a head-to-head battle and I hope that everybody can work in the spirit of cooperation toward bringing this mutually advantageous project to the community so everyone can be happy. Mike Reuwsaat: We are kind of in a catch 22 situation. Even if we wanted the crossing to occur now, in the first phase, it didn't because of something worse than government bureaucracy. We have gone back and forth and timing is messing this up for everyone. I thought I heard a commitment to move forward expeditiously to get a crossing by the railroad. I don't follow the logic of proceeding with the project jest because a situation is already there. That is why that crossing becomes even more critical but we have a timing issue in terms of putting it in. On the flip side of this catch 22, you have the sewage treatment facility and other amenities that the Adonis residents will be able to take advantage of. I appreciate and agree that resolving these issues is the Town's responsibility. It seems like we are kind of in a circle. There are some uncertainties because we don't have all of the players at the table, here. What if you get through to phase 2 with 200 units built and the railroad says no to the crossing or says you have to have at least 500 units. Ed Honea: I am really not against your project, I am just against the way it is being presented. I think the transportation problem is almost insurmountable. If you have a dangerous situation and you have inadequate chip sealed roads that flood and have two 900 turns in them that just barely take care of the current population, then you double or triple the amount of traffic, you are creating a hazard. I am interested in you providing some off site infrastructure improvements. I do not want the Town of Marana to end up like Pima County, floating a $358 million bond which is almost worthless because it is only hitting about 5% of the work that needs to be done. Every developer that comes in says, "1 am only building 500 homes, why should I have to build a road?" I am looking for some official agreement that says we (the Town) will participate on percentage per capita marked for the area. What can you do to appease me, as far as you participating in some of that? Donald Brooks: I hope that all of you have heard me previously, and tonight, saying that philosophically we have no disagreement. We don't want to see a burden on the public in the future. Mr. Doerken said earlier that he is willing to maintain the road, as is, if there is additional damage to the road due to his development. There is an inordinate cost, possibly, in updating the road. The road has been maintained by the Town since the last plat was approved. That is not an unreasonable request, for the project to fix damages to the road. We have almost four years of traffic studies attesting to the safety factors of this road and they have been approved and reapproved by staff. That really has not changed. If anything, the focus on an older population should reduce that. Mr. Doerken is making a huge infrastructure improvement to the community in terms of the treatment plant. The connection to the private railway crossing is not insubstantial but it is not immediately adjacent to this project. It is adjacent to his property but not the project. I sat on your side of the table as a consultant to public agencies. It is a chicken and the egg situation sometimes. Do you build the infrastructure and hope development comes or do you build the development without the infrastructure and hope that someone can pay for the infrastructure? No, you don't do either. You do both at the same time. All we are asking for, and what Mr. Doerken has said, is to reasonably proceed with this project with progressive improvements and progressive development. We have good strong mechanisms and I am very comfortable that your staff has the expertise and ability to work on that type of issue. Subdivision statutes in Arizona are pretty good and there are a lot of means that they have at their disposal to make sure everything that was said here tonight actually happens. Mr. Doerken has other properties in the area that he is going to want to develop, he is not going to be a hit and run. Ed Honea: I am not talking about repairing pot holes. Basically, I am saying that you have 500 homes and a two lane road may be sufficient, now. If you add 500 more homes, eventually you need wider roads and better construction. That is what I am looking at. Your project may go in there and net trigger additional lanes or better roadways, but the next guy might. Are we going to ask him to do the entire project because he is the one that triggered the need for more sufficient roadways? I am looking for some kind of development agreement committing you to this, not fixing pot holes in the road. Donald Brooks: With all due respect, there are literally decades of work in the engineering community as to when different triggers should occur, how things ought to occur, how traffic studies should be conducted, what level of service roadways can handle. That is a well established, documented body of work and I think it is best left to the engineers. We are going to build an off site connection across the railroad crossing and we are pursuing building a connection down to Tangerine. None of the property owners that we have ]6 talked to have any objection to paying their fair share. The other property owners, when they come in, will have to do a traffic study that specifically addresses their impact. We have done those studies, we have done three of them and they have been approved. These studies should be relied upon. If Grier Road were going to be the only access to this project, I would agree with you. It is not going to be the only access and we are creating the other ones. As far as a development agreement, if that is a mechanism that the attorneys think is the best, then we are open to that suggestion. I do think that there is enough statutory authority for the staff to get what you are asking for. Please don't take offense to my comments, they are not personal and I think, philosophically, we are in the same place. The issue has been explored and documented in sufficient detail that staff can be relied upon to handle it. Roxanne Ziegler: I would like to wrap this up. I understand Councilman Honea's enthusiasm to make sure the Town gets what it should have and I think we are for that. However, I know there are statutes that we can't impose on you. I think we are all passionate about what you are doing down there. I know you propose to phase in the road improvements. We will hold you to that on a plat and legally we cannot do any more than that. I suggest to Council that we do go by the traffic report, it is a legal document. I think there are more positive things in your development, such as: the sewer problem, the 208 will fall in there and we will hold you to the roads. Legally, you have a right to develop over there, but we will, as a Town, hold you to it. Granted, you did not create the road out there but you are going to use it and so you need to repair it as you use it. I think we have pretty well gone around the loop on this. Vice Mayor Sutton: Mr. Doerken, your attorney's letter was quite thorough in his interpretation of what would be done at final plat. I also did a little research with our attorney and one of the reasons for declining or postponing a plat is public safety. Although we are talking about it and the future is going to be good, we are going to make something a lot worse before it gets better and that is a public safety issue. I think we are real close and you have entertained the idea of getting with staff and talking about a development agreement allowing you to volunteer something. These are things that need to be at the table. We need to have the railroad here and a development agreement. I would even entertain the idea of a short, possibly 30 days, continuance to get everyone involved together. I don't think anyone is against the project, I think it is a great project, but there is a public safety issue. Donald Brooks: I think the safety issues have been very thoroughly researched and documented in the studies, that is what they are there to do. When the engineer put his seal on them he said these will meet the safety standards that are applicable. I hope you have heard that this developer has the same concerns you have. I think that staff is very competent in addressing the issues we have talked about. I want to point out that there has been four years of work already and we have met with a lot of neighbors before. We have had four public hearings and a lot of these issues were 17 very thoroughly investigated dudng the original plat. I have no objection to working with staff as you are requesting. Our client is a little concerned about how much effort he has already put into this project, which has been an extraordinary amount and I think, philosophically, he is in the place you are. I ask that you approved the plat subject to the development agreement being worked out with staff as you pointed out, instead of continuing it. The only reason I am asking, not to go against your wishes, is because he needs something he can rely on, as well. He doesn't want to keep revisiting these issues. We know there are some new council members and some new staff since the original plat was approved, but I want to see this project be a bridge to the community. A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Herb Kal, to continue this item for 30 days to give staff and the La Mirage staff a chance to finalize most of the stuff talked about this evening. Motion carried 5/1. Roxanne Ziegler voted no. Mike Reuwsaat: I would like staff to forward some information of the traffic studies to the council members, those that were accepted. Council recessed at 8:50. Council resumed at 9:01. F. 1998 Community Development Block Grants - Selection of Priorities for 1998 Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Funding. Discussion/Action Hurvie Davis: This is the time to make the selection on the priorities on the CDBG funding. We have sent out a list of the projects that we have thus far. Dan Groseclose: We did leave this in a position that we were requesting you to submit them pdor to the meeting. However, we also left entries blank and if any council member does want to add to the list, we need to discuss it because of the way we prioritize the amounts. One item on there, the Weekend Adventure Camping Program (#3) listed as $15,000, was a typo in the budget submitted to me and it should have read $7,000. If any of you have any items to add, I would like to discuss them prior to the voting. Are there any questions on the particular items listed? I would request that any council member that has an item to add to the list and bring it up for discussion at this time. Roxanne Ziegler: I have a question on the senior citizens' ceramic class. What are they going to do for $17,000 in ceramics? Dan Groseclose: This is a program for senior citizens that'is tiered into three particular groups that would be going on over a long period of time, almost a year. One of the major factors in there is that the Town does own a kiln and it is at the Recreation Center. The kiln has not been used for several years and the park staff recommends that the kiln be replaced. A kiln will cost approximately $3,500-$5,000. ]8 Roxanne Ziegler: Is ceramics a big deal up here for these folks? I am assuming that there are a lot of people into ceramics. Dan Groseclose: I can only speak to the Town's programs from some years ago. Some years ago there was a very active interest, especially in the senior citizens, in utilizing the recreation center and the kiln. They had ceramics classes there. That has not been utilized in the last 4-5 years. There has been a lot of requests from the community for this. One of the factors and discussions at previous council meetings, and meetings on the CDBG programs, is this would certainly fit into a system of working with the senior citizens. It would benefit the senior citizens in the area that we have not had programs for. I am not in favor of or against the program. The total budget on this includes moneys for staff to assist these people and maintenance on the kiln. There is one budgeted item for purchasing the grainware. Sherry Millner: I have done some ceramics for years and now that we have been talking about this more, I am wondering about a room for the ceramic products once they have been fired and have to have time to dry. You can't let kids near these. Is there a reom available for this? Dan Groseclose: There is a reom where the kiln is now. It is a ventilated reom which would be required to be able to utilize the kiln. As far as a place to store these for protection, in previous years it was where the glassed in area is. Further down on the agenda, there is an item that we will talk about regarding expanding the recreation center. That is something that could be considered. At this point in time, it would be difficult. A large part of the recreation center is utilized by the youth groups, very little is used by the senior citizens. Until we can expand and make reom for both in a lot of different ways, it would be something we would have to work with and make concessions on both ends. I think this can be accomplished. Roxanne Ziegler: I want to add safety lighting in Honea Heights. It has just brought to my attention that this is already in motion, never mind. Jerry Flannery: We have been looking at that. We will be applying for it on next year's budget. The lighting would go at Moore and Whitney, and at Sanders. Roxanne Ziegler: Does this have to go on the budget or can it come out of CDBG funds? Dan Groseclose: Certainly, that is an option that can be done. I would like to express to the Council, as an overall comment on the CDBG programs, that in the last three years we have average $225,000 in CDBG funding. Historically, the Town utilized those funds strictly on street maintenance and road improvements. Working with secondary AFAS roads, the Town was required to pay a percentage of the cost and the CDBG funds was about the only place to draw from for this. We have tried to shy away from that and really get the CDBG funding into community services and community projects instead of street and ]9 neighborhood improvements. However, that is certainly a valid safety issue and I would personally, as a citizen, rather see those projects come out of the Town's general fund and CDBG projects go to housing rehabilitation and the parks. Our funding for 1997 was only $120,000. Roxanne Ziegler: Ed Honea had mentioned Academy Without Walls earlier, do we want to add this to the list? Ed Honea: In regard to Academy Without Walls, there is a problem with this. It is doubtfully that 51% of the kids are going to be Iow to moderate income. Plus, you are providing free services to businesses and it probably would not qualify. Dan Groseclose: It would be a very difficult situation. We could certainly try, but I have a feeling that we would have some difficulty. Mike Reuwsaat: I would like you to prepare a memo to Council with the pros and cons and with the criteria she would have to meet. Dan Groseclose: Since these funds you are voting on tonight will not be available until November 1998, her summer program could not utilize these CDBG funds until summer of 1999. Vice Mayor Sutton: I think the priorities we have on here now are the ones we need to concentrate on. Dan Groseclose: I feel very good about the projects that are on this list. I just need your signatures on the bottom of your copies of the list. I will take these back in my office, right here, and tabulate them and bring them back for your approval. G. R i N . - - Approving the Execution of Loan Documents for a Seventy Thousand Dollar ($70,000), Zero Interest Loan with Arizona Electric Power Cooperative, Inc. (AEPCO) for a Water Line Extension. Discussion/Action Hurvie Davis: In 1995, you authorized us to look into getting a loan from AEPCO for $70,000 zero interest. We pursued that and we have had approval on the loan for some time and now we are just bringing this back for your approval to authorize the Mayor to execute the agreement. Mr. DeSpain is here if you need more information. Mike Reuwsaat: It is my understanding that the monthly payment will not increase. It has been factored in at the current rate structure. Brad DeSpain: That is correct. A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Roxanne Ziegler, to approve Resolution No. 97-123. Motion carried 6/0. 2O H. Pima Association of Governments Re_oional Council Meetino_ A_oenda - Review for Discussion and Direction Hurvie Davis: In going over this, I don't see anything controversial. I think everything will be approved. Item 5, report of the TIP Subcommittee, looks pretty good for us. I think it comes out to $250,000 for Cortaro Road design. Jerry Flannery: We beat out the City of Tucson for $250,000, which we are very proud of, to do a design concept for Cortaro Road from 1-10 to Silverbell. That is for widening to ultimately four lanes with landscaping and such. Hopefully, we will have a consultant on board in the next 3-4 months. We are excited about that. Hurvie Davis: Item 2 is on for Executive Session. We had it on the Executive Session for the Management Committee so I don't know how much I can say. The local transportation Planning staff for the Regional Agency are ADOT employees and have been since year one. It is an anequated arrangement and we are moving to transition from ADOT staff to have it as PAG staff. I think those people will be even more responsive and more accountable if they are local employees rather than state employees. It may cost us a little bit more every year for PAG membership to pay the staff but it is expected to be a small amount. A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Ed Honea, to go into Executive Session. Motion carried 6/0. Council went into Executive Session at EXECUTIVE SESSION - Pursuant to A.R.S. 38-431.03 (A) (1) for Discussion of Consideration of Employment Issues Relating to the Position of Assistant Town Manager EXECUTIVE SESSION - Pursuant to A.R.S. 38-431.01'(A) (4) for Discussion and Consultation with the Town Attorney to Consider the Town's Position and Instruct its Attorney Regarding Potential Litigation Sunward Materials and Trust #7610-T Consideration of Development Request for Assignment by Trust #7610- T, and Discussion/Action on Mining Activities in the Santa Cruz River Flood Plain by Sunward Materials and Trust #7610-T Wink Pierson: I would like to briefly tell you what the status of the request made by the Trust a couple of weeks ago. The Trust requested to be able to sign its entire interest as developer under the development agreement to a number of entities unknown at that time to myself and Town staff. We have done some investigation on this but additional information needs to be obtained. In response to the request, I sent a letter on behalf of the Town requesting additional information. That information has not yet been forth coming. Based on the fact that the Town is obligated to give its consent for any full and complete assignment of the development agreement. Sufficient information is needed to 21 be able to make an intelligent decision as to whether to give consent or not. At this point, I request that the Town determine not to grant consent pending additional information to be supplied so the Town can make an informed judgment as to whether to grant the request. A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Mike Reuwsaat, to temporarily deny the assignment by the Trust until further information is obtained. Motion carried 6/0. Dan Groseclose: Since I was unable to do the proper sorting due to computer failure, I am going to read out the CDBG list in the exact order they were printed on page with the ranking they received. 1) Senior Citizen Ceramics Class. #8 #9 #11 2) Park Teen/Adult Basketball League 3) Weekend Adventure Camping Program 4) Marana Health Center Administration #1 5) Marana Health Center Teen Wellness #3 6) Marana Health Center Drug Prescription #2 7) Housing Rehabilitation #5 8) Marana Municipal Water System Improvements ~ 9) Marana Housing Street Number #10 10) Marana Affordable Housing #6 11) Marana Community and Recreation Center Expansion #7 That is the exact order, I just was not able to arrange it the way I wanted, and I apologize for that. I have submitted a copy of this to the Clerk for official record of this meeting. It would prudent for you to vote on this ranking at this time. A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Herb Kal, to approve the priority listing as it was read into the record. Motion carried 6/0. A. Meyorand Council's ReDo~ Roxanne Ziegler: On a recent Saturday, I went around and collected about 30 pounds of food for the food bank. I went through Continental Ranch with a red wagon. I also wrote a letter to the Corporate office of Fry's asking them for donations. I attended Marana's first annual tree lighting and I thought it was a lot of fun. I was surprised at the turn out considering the rain and the cold. Thank you to everyone involved. I attended the BAC meeting and these folks are very concerned about the construction to be done on Thornydale and Ina. They are worried about the impact on their businesses. Finally, I attended the Continental Ranch Links Golf Course. It was lovely. Vice Mayor Sutton: I ditto on the Links. I actually got to play the course and it was a lot of fun. Everyone that worked on that project should be very proud, it is a beautiful course and I recommend it for every level of golf. I met Steve Jewitt, finally, and he truly is an ally and has nothing but praise for Marana. B. Manager's ReDort Hurvie Davis: Staff and I have met with a potential business to come to our Town. This business would generate between $45,000,000-$60,000,000 of retail sales per year. We think it looks very promising. It is a business that we would like to have in town. It would be a service to all of our residents and businesses. It is confidential. I cannot say too much at this time. Staff and I have been working on a proposal to have development pay for more of its cost in our community. I presented it to the Business Advisory Committee, and they supported it with a 7/0 vote and one abstained. I believe they were very excited about it. I am continuing to meet with the Mayor and some staff and I hope to bring this to Council the second meeting of January. X. FUTURE AGENDAITEMS Roxanne Ziegler: I want to have the Town sponsor an open house. I already talked to Mike about this. The issue with the businesses on Ina and Thornydale is huge. An open house with people from the County, Town and Mr. Atler's staff was suggested to get things on the wall and make these guys comfortable with what we are going to ask people to do. I don't know how you would want to structure that. Also, they are going to be asking for permission to use A-frame signs during the construction and this could be discussed at the open house. I would like to have that on the agenda to see if we can sponsor it. It would help if we had it once the 50% plans were in from the County. Xl. ADJOURNMENT A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Vice Mayor Sutton, to adjourn. The motion passed 5/1. Vice Mayor Sutton voted no. CERTIFICATION I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are the true and correct minutes of the Marana Town Council held on December 16, 1997. I further certify that a quorum was present. CLERK