HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/16/1997 Regular Council Meeting MinutesPLACE AND DATE
Marana Town Hall, September 16, 1997
ALL T RDER
By Mayor Ora Harn at 7:07 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Led by Mayor Ora Harn
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INVOCATION
Led by Mayor Ora Harn
IV. ROLL CALL
COUNCIL
Ora Ham
Bobby Sutton, Jr.
Ed Honea
Herb Kai
Sherry Millner
Michael Reuwsaat
Roxanne Ziegler
Mayor
Vice Mayor
Council Member
Council Member
Council Member, excused-arrived at 7:07
Council Member
Council Member
STAFF
Hurvie Davis
Michael Hein
Dan Hochuli
Sandy Groseclose
Jerry Flaunery
Roy Cuaron
Jocelyn Entz
Brad Despain
Floyd Foster
Dave Atler
Dave Smith
Hugh Holub
Ann Meaders
Town Manager
Assistant Town Manager
Town Attorney
Town Clerk
Planning & Zoning Director
Finance Director
Executive Asst. to Town Manager
Utilities Director
Water Operations Manager
Public Works Director
Chief of Police
Water Department Attomey
Water Administration Manager
V. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Vice Mayor Sutton to approve the
agenda as presented with the exception of moving Item E and F to precede Item B. The
motion was carried 6/0.
ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES
The minutes for the meeting of September 2, 1997 were continued until the next Council
Meeting at the request of the Town Clerk.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC/ANNOUNCEMENTS
Dave Atler: Introduction o£ new employees:
Deana Hubele Darice Larriva
Elton Bums Darryl Graham
Jerry Flaunery: Introduction of new employees:
Shara Canez
Lisa Segars
Ed Honea: There will be a luncheon on September 17, 1997 at 12:00 Noon at Trico.
Mayor Harn: On September 27, 1997, the Marana Health Center will have its 40th
Anniversary.
Roxanne Ziegler: The Saguaro Republican Women's Club has formed and is looking
for new membership. They meet at Continental Ranch Community Center on the first
Wednesday of each month at 7:00 P.M.
VIII. STAFF REPORTS
None
IX. GENERAL ORDER OF BUSINESS
Consent A~
1. Resolution No. 97-93 - Continental Ranch Parcel 26 Release Of
Assurance Agreement, Trust No. 4708, For Lots 1 Through 37, Common
Area A, And Acceptance Of Public Improvements For Maintenance
2. Resolution No. 97-94 - Continental Ranch Parcel 28 Release Of The
Assurance Agreement, Trust No. 4709, For Lots 1 Through 162 And
Common Areas A And B And Acceptance Of Public Improvements For
Maintenance
3. Resolution No. 97-95: Request For Liquor License Transfer - Request
By Tucson Entertainment, L.L.C. (Stampede), 4386 West Ina Road,
Marana, AZ 85741
4. Resolution No. 97-88: Twin Peaks Subdivision By Continental Ranch -
Request For Approval Of A Single Family Detached Manufactured
Home Subdivision Preliminary Plat Located On The Southwest Portion
Of Scenic Drive And SilverbeH Road In The Pima Farms North Specific
Plan Area In A Portion Of Section 20, Township 12 South, Range 12
East. Applicant Is Meyers Development Corp. P.O. Box 65629, Tucson,
Az 85728
A motion was made by Ed Honea, seconded by Vice Mayor Sutton to approve Consent
Items 1 through 4. The motion was carried 6/0.
E. General Discussion - Pending Bond Sale
NOTE: This will come back to Council October 7, 1997 for approval.
Mark Reader, Peacock, Hislop, Staley and Given, Inc.: Gave a presentation on the
Bond Rating Review and discussed the Bond Rating Review Document that was
prepared by Standard & Poor's Corporation. Pages 18, 19 and 20 explain the sources
and uses and how the Bond Rating is being derived. Discussed refunding the Public
Works, Water Company and Improvements. The duration was for different lengths of
time. Public Works had an amortization of 10 years. The Water Company and
Improvements had an amortization of 25 years. Council was encouraged to contact the
Financial Director, Roy Cuaron, with any questions once the document was reviewed.
Mr. Cuaron would then contact Mark Reader, or other appropriate contact, to get
answers for the Council.
F. Discussion/Direction - Parking Problems Rivulet Place At Rivulet Drive In
Continental Ranch
No action taken by Council. Council did direct staff to communicate with Homeowners
and the Little League to see what can be done to alleviate the parking problem, rather
than take action with an Ordinance to regulate parking. Council felt it important to
approach citizens first. This problem occurs primarily during Little League Season.
B. pUBLIC HEARING: Ordinance No. 97-28: Significant Land Use Change By Granite
Construction - Appeal Of A Request To Establish A Sand And Gravel Extraction
Operation On Properties Located On Tangerine Road And Approximately ~ Of A Mile
West Of Interstate-10, Adjacent To The Pima County Regional Landfill, Within A
Portion Of Section 1 And 2 Of Township 12 South, Range 11 East, Assessor's Parcel
Numbers 215--01-005A. Application Is Granite Construction, P.O. Box 27557, Tucson,
AZ 85726
NOTE: Sherry Millner arrived at 7:07.
NOTE: Taping of minutes was interrupted from beginning of meeting until 8:30 due to
problems with the tape.
Bill Schisler, 12561 North White Avenue: Suggested the Council listen to the
individuals who have property close to the site and listen to their concerns.
Michael Johnson, 4842 East Cooper: Opposes the Significant Land Use Change. His
property is in between these two sites for Granite Construction.
Marc Palkowitsh, 650 South Cherry Street, Denver, CO 80246: Opposes the
Significant Land Usc Change.
Mike Grassinger, Planning and Zoning Department: Representing Granite
Construction, gave a presentation on the site and addressed the concerns of Marc
Palkowitsh and Michael Johnson. The applicant had agreed to move the processing
portion of the operation further south from Tangerine Road. The aggregate processing,
concrete batch plant and asphalt plant would be approximately 1,000 feet from Mr.
Palkowitsh's property. In addition, the 300 foot wide landscape area and berm would
help block the plant from view. The major noise generator, the asphalt burner element,
would be designed so that noise from it would be directed toward the County landfill.
During the final phase of operation the processing plant would be moved into the
excavation pit on the south side of the property. This would hide the plant and block all
noise at that time. All emissions and dust generated by the plant are heavily regulated by
County, State and Federal regulations. The portable equipment to be used by Granite is
similar to that being used at their Swan Road plant near Los Reales. That plant is
consistently well below the allowable limits for dust and odors. Asphalt odors are very
localized and will not be detectable beyond the property boundaries. The smoke-like
emission from the asphalt plant is primarily water vapor or steam. All traffic will enter
and exit the site at only one point at the far east edge of the property on Tangerine Road.
In the future, an alternative alignment will direct truck traffic across the CalMat property
to the re-alignment of Tangerine Road. Currently Tangerine Road has the capacity for
16,000 trips per day. The traffic on the road is 660 trips per day. Granite, at full
capacity, will generate about 485 trips per day. However, by that time the landfill will
be closed and the 660 trips associated with the landfill will no longer exist. The result
will be less impact on Tangerine Road at that time. Can the overburden be used to fill up
the previous hole when the site is moved?
Ted Hayworth, Granite Construction Company: Yes, this is an option. What Granite
would want to do is to concentrate that effort on the frontage to be reclaimed first so it
can be converted and used as light industrial commercial property.
Mike Grassinger: The overburden from both sides A and B could be used to fill the pit
closer to the roadway and move south.
Ted Hayworth: Addressing Council Member, Ed Honea, the history given was exactly
right. The first property Granite bought was from the Arizona State Land Department
auction. The second property was from Producers Cotton that had taken over Mr.
White's property after he had failed due to the floods. The third parcel was the Cosmo
Ali property just west of the landfill and it included perpetual easement across the
property south of the landfill.
Mayor Harn: I think one of the other statements Ed Honea made was when the
County consents to do something, the Town loses total control of the situation. The
County has never honored any of our requests for setbacks. A number of us went to the
State at the time they were ready to sell that land. We requested they not sell it to the
County for the landfill. They informed us the top bidder would get it and that they
definitely would sell it to the County if the County made a proposal. The County did
have the high bid. We were grateful to Granite for buying that property.
Mike Reuwsaat: Addressed Mayor Ham regarding generating revenue from the
aggregate mining. State Law prohibits municipalities from taxing mining operations.
Mr. Hayworth mentioned that the mining board has agreed they would not mind giving a
nickel a ton (this sounds like a tax) to generate revenue for the community.
Mayor Harm Addressed Council Member Ed Honea. At an earlier meeting with Mike
Hein I suggested talking with the Town tax attorney to come up with ways to legally
generate revenue from the mining.
Ray Cuaron: I spoke with the League of Cities and Towns, Kathy Conley, who directed
me in the Code. I also spoke with Steven Lee of Brow & Bain. It was explained that the
extraction of sand and gravel is not considered a mining activity. The tax rate on
mining, by State Law is 1/10 of 1%. The extraction of sand and gravel is considered a
retail sale, which is subject to the Town's 2% tax code. Unfortunately, most of Granite's
sales are probably considered Wholesale and not subject to taxation.
Roxanne Ziegler: I like what has been presented by Mr. Hayworth and Mr. Grassinger.
My biggest problem with this issue is getting something from these mining operations.
There are two existing sand and gravel pits, Sunward and San Xavier and now the
proposal for a third, Granite Construction. Bank protection must be in place before
anyone can do anything to resolve the concerns of revenue going back into the
community. Granite will shut down in two to four years if they go dry and bank
protection is not in. Until that time, with all of the creative individuals we have someone
should be able to come up with an idea to make this issue more attractive to the
community. Granite said something about a severance fee, Jack Neubeck has had
several ideas. Sand and gravel is a necessary evil, however, the concern is how often
they travel back and forth on the roads. No revenue will be going to the Town for road
repairs, etc. At the point that Granite is charged, the other two pits would be charged. A
retroactive charge would not be fair. Without the money being there, I will not be able
to vote for this.
Mayor Harm The problem still lies with the other businesses. For example, Coca Cola
and Catalina Coating do not pay anything to the Town either.
Roxanne Ziegler: Don't they pay a 4% Utility Tax?
Hurvie Davis: They do pay a 4% Utility Tax, as would Granite.
Mike Reuwsaat: Roy Cuaron had given a revenue breakdown on sales taxes six months
ago. The Town is already generating $300,000 per year in sales tax from mining and
excavation out of $7,000,000. As a thought, what about generating revenue with means
available rather than legislatively? For example, Public Improvement Districts, such as
Red Hawk, to find boundaries for specific improvements.
Mayor Harn: The land Granite is contributing to the bank protection has significant
value to this community as well as the material they will supply the County for the bank
protection. These are significant resources the company is willing to put forth.
Iterb Kai: Addressed Roy Cuaron. There is some retail sales from CalMat to date. Is
revenue coming in from that?
Roy Cuaron: For 1996-1997 fiscal year the mining industry generated less than 1% of
the total tax revenues to the Town, in the neighborhood of $50,000. That probably is the
retail end of it. In some brief discussions today with Steven Lee of Brown & Bain, Mr.
Lee's opinion was that within the Tax Code the Town does not have much flexibility but
something specific would be acceptable. The idea of an Improvement District is
probably a good one and requires the consent of the property owners.
Mike Reuwsaat: Addressed Mr. Hayworth. Have you satisfied the concerns of Mr.
Pacheco and Mr. Condit? Since they are both present, could they come forward and
state their present state of mind on this issue?
Robert Condit: I have concerns of excavation and stockpiling prior to the bank
protection. There are plans to excavate. I suggested a berm for landscaping purposes
and that has been addressed.
Art Pacheco: I am adamant that nothing should be done until we have flood control.
We saw what can happen during the flood of 1983. It is a concern that flood control
could take a few more years and so nothing can be done with it. Reluctantly, I said I
would not protest. I would like to see something on the reclamation on the hole follow
through. There should be some kind of restriction when the top soil is removed, that
other holes are filled in.
Ed Itonea: Addressed Mr. Hayworth. A couple of days ago, you said you would
contact Mr. Gladden. Mr. Gladden is now in New Mexico and can not be contacted.
Was Mr. Gladden contacted before he went to New Mexico?
Mr. Ilayworth: I did not personally contact Mr. Gladden.
Ed }tonea: Mr. Neubeck spoke with Mr. Gladden and his concerns are, apparently,
identical to Mr. Pacheco's. Mr. Gladden's property will be protected by the berm just as
much, if not more, than Mr. Pacheco's. With the concerns being identical, it is felt that
both were satisfied with the solution.
Hurvie Davis: We have been working with Pima County to get an (IGA) for protection
on the Santa Cruz for some time. We have exchanged many drafts. Today at 5:08, a fax
was sent to the Town of Marana from Chuck Huckleberry regarding the latest issue.
Addressed the applicant for clarification. In the middle of the first paragraph, it states
the District must have Veto authority over any flood plain activity near or adjacent to the
levy that could cause any instability. Mr. Flannery and Mr. Atler, what would the set
back be to the mining operation from the ultimate alignment and construction of the
levy? It is believed that it is about 200 feet (would like the applicant to verify). Mr.
Atler feels the 200 foot set back would not cause instability to the levy. Would the
County agree with that? The County, many years ago, was working on an agreement
with the Town to have a 500 foot set back. We had gotten down, at one point in time, to
a 50 foot set back. A 200 foot set back would theoretically be acceptable.
Mr. Itayworth: Yes, plans submitted do show a 200 foot set back from the levy. It
would not be advantageous to Granite to have a situation which may cause instability to
the bank. Granite is willing to work with the Town and be sure that everything is
reviewed by Town Staff. Automatic veto ability by the County is a concern.
Iturvie Davis: Regarding Town benefits in relation to the construction of the levy,
which will hopefully be coming about soon, would Granite be willing to donate material
or provide material at cost?
Mayor ltarn: When the Quick Claim Deed was done for the right-of-way for the bank
protection the last time, Granite Construction was the only company that came forward
and signed the right-of-way. Pima County said they worked out some figures which
came to millions of dollars worth of savings to our bank protection with the right-of-
way.
Mayor Harn: Granite agreed that the overage of materials would be used as part of the
bank protection project. Would the Council like Mr. Hayworth to commit on record?
lturvie Davis: Council's pleasure.
Mr. Hayworth: Granite has a lot of frontage along the Santa Cruz River and the two
key cost components are cement (Arizona Portland makes cement, Granite does not) and
close access to dirt. To build the levy is going to take a lot of dirt due to the length and
our frontage will save money on that.
Mayor Itarn: Does the County have a figure for land acquisitions for bank protection?
Are they going to buy all that land? The cost to buy all of that land was very high.
Hurvie Davis: In previous discussions with Pima County, Flood Control District and
assessing land owners that benefit from the flood control project was always brought up.
In discussions with them regarding the right-of-way easements and so forth, the value of
that land would be credited back to that property owner to offset the total assessment on
their property. Pima County should still be willing to accept that arrangement.
Mayor Harn: The land and materials dedicated will be significantly more than what
was assessed for those acres.
A motion was made by Ed Honed, seconded by Roxanne Ziegler to approve Ord. No.97-
28 with the following stipulations: 1) dedication of right-of-way as determined by
Town Engineer 2) 300 foot set back be provided for any mining related activities along
Tangerine Road in coordination with that requiring approved CalMat specific plan
3) coordination of main access road sharing with CalMat to minimize transportation
impacts 4) buffering and screening the provided in accordance with an approved
development plan 5) a minimum 50 foot mining set back and minimum 1 to 1 ½ slope
be provided next to the Tangerine Landfill 6) a reclamation plan be submitted with the
development plan for the property 7) the Green Waste Proposal be removed from the
application 8) Granite agrees to work with the Town of Marana to find a plan to help
generate some revenue, along with the other mining operations (representatives present)
A motion was made to amend by Roxanne Ziegler, and seconded by Ed Honea to have
Granite endeavor to support us strongly in soliciting Pima County for bank protection.
The amended motion carried 6/0. Vice Mayor Sutton voted no.
BREAK 9:00 P.M.
RETURN 9:30 P.M.
C. Update - Cortaro Road Interchange Construction Update
Hurvie Davis: Introduced Mr. Atler to present the update.
Dave Atler: This item was put on the agenda to update the Council on the schedule and
what has been going on with the interchange. Any questions pertaining to related
projects, such as Loop Road and Arizona Pavilions Drive (nearing completion) are
welcome. Bruce Purrier is here from ADOT, he is the Project Manager for the Cortaro
Interchange. Called Mr. Greer to the microphone.
Mayor Harm Apologized for the delay.
Bruce Purrier, Construction Engineer, Arizona Department of Transportation;
Project Manager for Cortaro Road Interchange Project: This is the first Design Bill
Project in the State of Arizona that was authorized by the State Legislature as one of two
projects (one here in Pima County and one in Maricopa County). With this type of
contracting, one contract includes the design and construction of project. There was a
lengthy process to pick a successful company to do this. The Ashton Company of
Tucson and Parsons, Brinckcrhoff, Quade and Douglas, Inc. were awarded the contract
on July 11, 1997. They will be working together on this project. Because this is design-
built, it has received and exemption from the Federal Government to not follow all the
procedures strictly. We are able to work on purchasing right-of-way, doing
archeological work and begin designing simultaneously. This is going to save a lot of
time. The piles of dirt that were visible from the road were a result of the archeological
work which was completed in August. The State Historical Preservation Office has
given a clearance to start work. Some right-of-way parcels are still in progress. The
feed store that was thee has relocated. Another parcel south of the feed store is in
bankruptcy so, legally, condemnation cannot be filed against it. The Judge awarded a
special exemption in order to file the condemnation. McDonald's lost access on the
Frontage Road and will be compensated for that. There is still a disagreement over how
much they will be allowed for compensation. Parsons has been working on the plans
and, as of tomorrow, will be 60% complete. They will be turning those into ADOT for
review. Mr. Greer will come back at a later date to show the Council the plans of what it
will actually look like. The plans will be submitted to some of the ADOT technical areas
in Phoenix tomorrow. ADOT has about two weeks to review and look at all the different
aspects. From that point, they will be allowed to pick usable segments of the project and
do final design and start construction immediately. It is estimated that construction will
begin around the middle of October. One of the first steps will be relocating Cortaro-
Marana Irrigation District Canal, located on the east side on the West bound frontage
road between the Railroad and Interstate-10. The canal will be piped underground in the
vicinity of the new ramp. The project has been working closely with Robert Condit and
he will allow the canal to be dried up for about 2 ½ months so the work can be done.
Tucson Electric Power started work almost immediately on designing relocation of their
facilities, q3~ere is a power line along the west side of the canal that has to be moved
closer to the railroad on the edge of the right-of-way. These plans are done. The project
should be finished around April, 1998. The success of this project has been the Town of
Marana building Arizona Pavilions Drive. Without that loop road the project would not
work.
Mayor Harn: Would you send a letter to that effect?
Bruce Purrier: I would be glad to do that.
Mayor Itarn: This project is going well and it is greatly appreciated.
Vice Mayor Sutton: With this design bill going so well, is this the way ADOT intends
to do business in the future?
Bruce Purrier: We want to get approval from the State Legislature to permanently have
this type of contracting.
Vice Mayor Sutton: It will save time on projects so the people in the community don't
get so frustrated. They do not understand the time factor.
Hurvie Davis: Addressed Mayor Ham. Based on what Brace just said, perhaps the
Council may wish to consider supporting this concept on a permanent basis at the
Legislative level.
Mayor Harn: Wouldn't this kind of process save money?
Bruce Purrier: It asks the Design Build Contractor to take on more risks. They have to
give a price without having plans. You can't get risks for free, so a lot of times you
won't save money. However, there are certain types of projects, like bridges, where
there is a lot of options to do it differently. One firm might be real good for steel,
another might be real good for concrete.
D. Flood Control Issues - Discussion/Direction
Hurvie Davis: We have people patiently waiting for this discussion. There are two
elements on this item which require your attention, Madame Mayor.
1. The physical improvements regarding flood control on the Santa Cruz.
Hurvie Davis: The Fair Share Ordinance does not apply for the reimbursements to
citizens for flood precaution upgrades.
Hugh Holub: The request for the Fair Share Ordinance was declined. However, it
could be translated into an Impact Fee Ordinance with a good analysis of the cost of the
project and how the benefit was allocated to the Marana share and, in mm, how that
benefit is spread over the Flood Plain. Now arguments are coming back that they are not
going to guarantee any benefit. I'm not sure what we can do at this point.
Hurvie Davis: This Item is scheduled for the Executive Session as well.
Roxanne Ziegler: I had lunch with Sharon Bronson and there was little support as far as
the bank protection. The impression Pima County has is that the only reason we want
bank protection is from a development stand point.
Hugh Holub: Over a year ago, we said allocate a portion of the total project cost to the
Town. The amount they allocated was accepted and it was understood that if there was
any development and someone has an opportunity to make some money they have to pay
(i.e.: a home builder, etc.) In their last response they took away our ability to do that.
What they are really saying is, "Take it out of your general fund."
Ed Honea: I think this subject is complex enough that we should have a special meeting
and invited Congressman Kolbe, some State Senators, CalMat, Granite, Sunward, San
Xavier, some home builders, etc.
Mayor Harn: We do need to get every possible person and organization we can
involved in getting this project moving.
Karl Horvath: I am disappointed that Pima County has taken fourteen years and still
nothing. Get the news here and let them know we mean business.
2. Emergency preparedness and the impact of El Nino.
Chief Dave Smith: Our Office of Emergency Management comes under the Pima
County Department of Health Services. Dennis Douglas, Director of Pima County
Department of Health Services, has a presentation for the Council.
Dennis Douglas: Would like to introduce Art Ruff, Manager of Field Operations of the
Health Department (Animal Control, Health Inspectors, Emergency Management).
Also, Dave Lennex, one of our two Certified Emergency Management Coordinators.
We are here at the behest of Mr. Davis, Chief Smith and as a result of a letter the Mayor
wrote to Sharon Bronson asking us to come out and make a presentation to you on some
of the preparedness that Pima County is doing in the event that we experience some of
our concerns with E1 Nino. We have provided you with a notebook. We have been
watching Hurricane Linda for the last week or so and the good news is it is tracking
directly west, away from land. It has also been reduced to a Tropical Storm and is down
to about 35 miles per hour. Basically, E1 Nino is going away. Some results from E1
Nino were: the 2 inches they had in Yuma on Saturday; much of the beach erosion that
is being seen in California. Since May, 1997, the Sea Surface temperatures in the mid-
central Pacific have been warming. Generally, in April and May the temperatures go
down about 1-3° Centigrade. This is along the same lines of some of the things seen
historically for E1 Nino. 1983 and 1993 were 100 year floods which occurred within ten
Ed Honea: Going back to an old flood control issue, the bridge down Trico/Marana
should have a lot of sand bags. The residents, particularly from Honea Heights and
Berry Acres, believe that if nothing is done to relieve that build up on the east side it will
cause major flooding in their backyard. Addressed Dave as to an engineering opinion.
Dave Atler: What happens is the first flows that come through flush the sediment out
from under the bridge. That is the Sediment Transport Theory. It does depend on the
amount of sediment in the water. The primary problem seen in 1983 and 1993, was the
elevation of Marana Road. The road acted as a dike so the sediment did not get flushed
out. We did an analysis last year on the capacity of the Marana Bridge, which is in Pima
County, and the Sanders Road Bridge and compared the information to the late 1980's
Pima County study. This identified the Pima Flood Plain. We took cross-sections in the
same place as the 1980's study and then again after the September 1996 Flood. This
shows ho~v much the riverbed is rising after each flood in order to get an idea of how
much sediment is being dumped.
Brad DeSpain: I am the gentleman who removed all of the sand from the Trico Bridge
in 1993. Since then they have done some bank protection there. The bridge is still
narrow, they did clean out from under it (it is back down to 14 feet).
Mayor Itarn: When they talk about first flows flushing the sediment, that might be true
if there are not things growing in the river holding the silt back. The Town can not get
into the river and clean it out. i think we could suggest getting that sand to make our
sand pile.
Ed Itonea: In 1983, there was not any flooding in the daylight hours in the residential
areas. Within a couple hours after dark there was 3 feet of water in certain parts. We
had no way of warning people, and vehicles could not get in. Can we come up with
some type of early warning system?
Dennis Douglas: Subsequent to the 1983 flood, the County is putting in gauging
stations. The gauging stations identify the depths of flow and relays the information
back to Flood Control and Emergency Services. They are looking into identifying a
number of gauging stations that can relay early warning labels that identify the Santa
Cruz and its contributors. The further upstream we go, the more warning we have.
Potentially, that gives us several hours.
Vice Mayor Sutton: Addressed Dave and Dan. People who live in Continental Ranch
are concerned about the lack of bank protection. Continental Ranch is not required to
have flood insurance because now they are out of the Flood Plain. Insurance Companies
are coming around and posting things telling residents they better get flood insurance
because E1 Nino is coming. People are in a panic. Half of the people have gone ahead
and purchased flood insurance.
Dave Atler: Address Vice Mayor Sutton. In 1983 we had three or four times the water
as in 1993 and Continental Ranch did not flood. I don't think Continental Ranch is in
danger.
years of each other, so we might have to reevaluate this. We anticipate these conditions
to continue through early 1998. The conditions we have seen are the delay of the onset
of summer rains in the Southwest, wetter/cooler conditions in the Northern Rockies and
dry conditions in the middle Atlantic States. The temperatures anticipated for September
through February are going to be normal. However, the precipitation in September,
November, December and February are higher than normal. By March, April and May
we begin to get back to normal. There are some significant increases in precipitation
ahead. On the chart provided, 1982-1983 shows the same type of precipitation
characteristics as 1997-1998 in both Phoenix and Tucson. The Council is invited to come
down to the EOC on December 30, 1997 for a tour of our Emergency Operations Center,
which is where the Mayor and Chief Smith would go to manage the emergency. We
have stream gauges in many arroyos and washes which are electronically connected to
the Transportation Department. This information can be accessed from the EOC. The
EBS is no longer used, now there are scrolls across the bottom of the screen. This whole
system is automated taking the issue of human error out of the equation. Marana Junior
High, Marana Senior High, Tortolita, Mountain View, and the Halberg Community
Center are some emergency shelters Chief Smith and his organization would use in
conjunction with the Red Cross in the event that a disaster occurred in Marana. The
Marana Emergency Operations Plan put together by Chief Smith and the Office of
Emergency Management shows how the Office of Emergency Management and the
Town of Marana are working together. We have 5,000 sand bags on hand and we have
contacted other Police agencies, the National Guard, the State(FIMA), etc. for support.
Mike Reuwsaat: What is in place that will actually photo or film flood flows for a more
accurate pictorial memory when we are looking at future development.
Dennis Douglas: One of the first things we do when we are experiencing this kind of
thing is to get people in the air to understand the impact. We can use the Tucson Police
Department Helicopter, Sheriff's Department aircraft, ANG aircraft and surveillance
equipment. This is important for a couple reasons: 1) The preservation and safety of
our people. 2) The Office of Emergency Management is the gateway for reimbursement
from the Federal Government to the Town of Marana in the event there is damages in
result of a flood. So, it is important for us to document and do as much visual as
possible.
Mayor Itarn: We have already talked to the Staff about having supplies of burlap sacks
and sand within the Town so they are available the people of Marana if they need it. We
are really working toward a public interest Disaster Plan for the community.
Vice Mayor Sutton: Being from Louisiana, I have been through a lot of flooding and
hurricanes. It scares me here because I have never seen water flow the way it does here.
What is your guess about our chances of seeing something?
Dennis Douglas: I simply cannot answer that question. Recently, I attended a briefing
in Phoenix ~vith one of the Chief Executives from the National Weather Service. All of
the Directors from the fifteen Counties were briefed on all of the projected precipitation,
weather hazards and the indicators and how to prepare for the possibility of disaster.
Then they were told, "...or, maybe it ~von't happen." We simply do not know. I can not
tell you a percentage of chances, but, I can tell you the significance of the possibility.
Mayor Itarn: When you hear comments like this, you understand why some of us who
have gone through this get a little nervous and begin to wonder why we are sitting down
here like sitting ducks. Mr. Huckleberry keeps running around the bush with us and
some people in Pima County talk about it like we are trying to get flood protection so we
can build houses. It is really frustrating. We need to have this plan, not just for floods
but for disasters in general. The people in Continental Ranch need to call Pima County
and ask about flood insurance.
Sherry Millner: The people of Continental Ranch need to educate themselves and
research the area (i.e.: the Internet has a lot of information).
Hurvie Davis: We are preparing for the possibility of disaster and the residents will
know in time if they are in any danger. Public Works is also preparing equipment,
personnel, etc.
Vice Mayor Sutton: Could Staff prepare a newsletter of some kind to go out to the
residents informing them of evacuation procedures and disaster preparedness
information?
Dave Atler: We have ordered Evacuation Direction Signs and Markers that attach to
street signs and indicate water level. 10,000 sandbags are on reserve in Phoenix, and a
sandbag filling machine is on order. Potable water will be available to the public.
Mayor Harm I do want to put together a newsletter for the citizens.
G. Discussion/Direction Water Rates - Standardizing the Water Rates to the
Current Water Code for the Newly Acquired Water Systems
Hurvie Davis: We have met with the water committees and discussed water rates. The
three systems have different rates from our Toxvn rates.
Brad DeSpain: We are presenting a raisc in the water rates. The Code rate is going to
raise the rates a significant amount everywhere except Honea Heights (Honea Heights is
already on the Code rate). We recommend an effective date for these new rates of
January 1, 1998. We would like to recommend a Public Hearing so people will have an
opportunity to come in and discuss their feelings with us in person.
Mayor Harm Are there any Commcrcial customers included in this?
Brad DeSpain: No, there are not any Commercial customers included in this analysis.
There are approximately 15 to 20 Commercial customers, these rates will be
considerably higher.
Ed I-Ionea: What about when Continental Ranch becomes our customers? How many
customers will that be total'?
Brad DeSpain: We would be obtaining about 2,500 customers in addition to our current
customer list.
Mayor Ham: When we take over some of the industrial accounts, would that put us
closer to breaking even with the Water Company?
Brad DeSpaiu: It would help considerably.
Mike Reuwsaat: Did you say the cost of the improvements and the projected bond
expenditures are not capitalized into the rate structure?
Roy Cuaron: The $568,000 deficit does not include any capital improvements. It is
what we call operating expenses.
Mike Reuwsaat: Could the Council have, ASAP, the numbers reflecting actual
operation on a fee basis?
Brad DeSpain: The rate you would need to go to is a base fee of $26 and a commodity
fee of $6. That is to get to a break even point xvith our current customers.
Ed Honea: The rates do not include administration allocations/overheads, etc. We
would liked to have seen a shorter term on the Bond Issue. As the customer base grows,
we will have a better chance of breaking even. I really appreciate the sensitivity of the
staff of the Water Department with concerns of the customers. We are working on a
progressive rate structure with a built in conservation element.
Brad DeSpain: We did present a schedule to you, Mayor, but it only applies to the
current rate increase. What schedule does the Council want us to follow and who do you
want the Public Hearings before?
Ed Fionea: More Public Hearings would be nice for future rate increases, however, that
is not the issue at this point. There is a statute which requires these hearings to be held
30 days before the posting of the rate increase and the posting must be 30 days prior to
the actual increase.
Mayor Ham: The Public Hearings should be held separately from the Council
Meetings. It might pay for us to put out a direct-mail newsletter to inform our
community about all of the issues we are working on.
A motion was made by Mike Reuwsaat, seconded by Ed Honea, that the Staff proceed
with presentation of the Notification Schedule and the Rate Stabilization to the Council
as proposed in the Memorandum. Motion carried unanimously.
The Public Hearing for the Water Rate Increase is scheduled for November 19, 1997.
FI. !'ima Association Of Governments Regional Council Meeting - Review for
Discussion and Direction
Mayor Harn: Mayor Lester ~vill be at the PAG Council and will be asking for a seat on
the Council.
Ed Honea: I think we should temporarily oppose that, until the law suits are settled.
Mayor Harn: I would like Council to come to a group decision on this.
A motion was made by Ed Honca, seconded by Mike Reuwsaat, to make it clear to the
Town of Tortolita that we do not oppose them being in PAG, however, we object to them
being a voting member until wc see the outcome of the pending litigation. Motion
carried unanimously.
Hurvie Davis: I truly believe that the City of'Tucson will oppose authorization of more
seats on the PAG Council.
I. ]Resolution No. 97-97 - Snplmrt of Proposed Catalina Incorporation
Mayor Harm CataLina is putting tk)rth a real effort to make a ruling, good decisions,
etc. If this law suit of the City o1' Tucson is upheld, they will not be able to incorporate
without our permission.
Mike Reuwsaat: Was there discussion on our consistency with Tortolita? This is
actually a point to be made.
Ed Honea: Catalina has been cooperativc and the others (Tortolita, Casas Adobes, etc.)
have not.
A motion was made by Ed llonea, seconded by Mike Reuwsaat, to pass Resolution 97-
97. Motion carried unanimously.
J. Discussion - Location of Tohacco Vcoding Machines
Roxanne Ziegler: I was approached by a citizen of Marana. He was in the Waffle
House on Ina and saw a cigarette vending machine. He thought they were illegal and
wanted it on the agenda for discussion. Although they are not illegal, we may want to
consider only allowing them in locations where minors do not have access.
A motion was made by Roxanne Ziegler, seconded by Ed Honea, to direct Staff to draw
up necessary documents to entbrcc thc restrictions of cigarette vending machines in the
Town of Marana so minors do not have access. Motion carried unanimously.
K. EXECUTIVE SESSION - l'ursuant to A.R.S. Section 39.431.03 (A) (3)
Discussion of Consultation fin' Legal Advise with the Town Attorney Relating to
Flood Control Issues and Fuoding of Flood Control
A motion was made by Vice Mayor Sutton, seconded by Ed Honea, to continue Item K
as a future agenda item. Motion carried unaninaously.
L. Mayor and Council's Rcpor~
Mayor Harm I have been askcd many times recently why we are so land greedy. I do
not feel that any of us need to apologize for any of the decisions we have made, I am
very proud of our Staff and the progress we have made.
Vice Mayor Sutton: I would like to commend Mr. Hochuli with being on top of
situations and really handling things st) efl'ectively.
Roxanne Ziegler: Thank you, Dave Atler, for helping to clear up the issue that
residents have concerning thc prisoners working so close to the school.
Mike Renwsaat: I was contacted by two of the merchants on Sandario. They would
like the Staff to look into landscaping the right-of-way, or some type of public
improvements.
Ed Honea: Our Assistant Town Manager negotiated a deal with our outside consultant
for a landscape plan.
M. Manager's Report
None
X. Fqture Agenda Items
None
XI. A0journlnent
A motion was made by Vice Mayor Sutton, seconded by Herb Kai and carried
unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 11:45 p.m.
C_ ERT!FICATIQN
I hereby certify that thc foregoing minutes are the true and correct minutes of the Marana
Town Council held on September 16, 1997. I further certify that a quorum was present.