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SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
MINUTES
115 5 5 W. Civic Center Drive, Marana, Arizona 85653
Board Room., Marana Municipal Complex
Tuesday, October 7, 2014, at or after 6: PM
Ed Honea, Mayor
Jon Post, Vice Mayor
David Bowen, Council Member
Patti Comerford, Council Member
Herb Kai, Council Member
Carol McG orray, Council Member
Roxanne Ziegler, Council Member
SPECIAL COUNCIL MELTING
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Honea called the meeting to order at 6:01
p.m. Records Administrator, Hilary Hiser called roll. Vice Mayor Post and Council
Member McGorray were excused. All other Council Members were present, constituting a
quorum.
DISCUSSIONIPOSSIBLE ACTION
D1: Relating to open Meeting Law; presentation and discussion regarding the Arizona Open
Meeting Law, A.R.S. § 3 -431 et seq. Mayor Honea introduced guest speaker Susan Goodwin
of Curtis, Goodwin, Sullivan, Udall & Schwab, P.L.C. Ms. Goodwin started her presentation by
briefly explaining how she determined the Council violated the opening meeting law via email.
Ms. Goodwin's involvement in this matter was at the request of the Town Attorney, Frank
Cassidy and her recommendation for training is to help the Council avoid accidental violations
of the law in the future. Ms. Goodwin said she did not find evidence of Council Members
crafting agreements, but rather proposing legal action in a quorum setting with four or more
Council Members emailed.
Ms. Goodwin stated her training focuses specifically on serial meetings and emails, which are
common types of violations. She did emphasize that most violations of the law are
unintentional. Ms. Goodwin reminded the Council Members that when a quorum is present
outside of a scheduled meeting, with an agenda, and the members discuss Town business that
constitutes a violation of the open meeting law because the members are in an informal meeting.
A serial meeting occurs when Council Members discuss or propose items related to Town
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business with less than a quorum present and then continue to have smaller meetings with less
than a quorum present to discuss or propose the same Town business.
Ms. Goodwin explained that when emailing council members regarding Town business, Council
Members should remember what constitutes a quorum and also determine if the content is fact
based or opinion based. Ms. Goodwin warned that Council Members can provide facts to other
members, but expressing opinions regarding those facts is a slippery slop towards proposing
legal action and might be considered a violation of the open meeting law. Ms. Goodwin
suggested that during conversations with colleagues, Council Members not to express an opinion
regarding Town business because that opinion might lead to a proposal in the future.
Nis. Goodwin briefly touched on the use of social media by elected officials. If the Council
Member has more than a quorum of Council Members as friends, Ms. Goodwin suggested that
Council Members with private Facebook pages avoid making comments regarding Town
business. Although this might not be a direct violation of the open meeting law, she cautioned
this might become a violation of the law in the future. Ms. Goodwin insisted that social media
participation by Council Members should only be for personal use and not a platform for Town
business.
Finally, Ms. Goodwin concluded her presentation by reviewing the protocol for Council
Members attending other open public meetings as a quorum. If Council Members attend a
meeting where a quorum is present, that attendance needs a courtesy quorum notice and
members should not discuss or propose information related to Town business while at that
meeting.
Mayor Honea indicated that these restrictions appear to prevent any meaningful conversation
regarding Town business. Ms. Goodwin responded that Council Members can participate in
events and other meetings, but cannot discuss Town business that might result in a future
proposal during these events. Ms. Goodwin emphasized that Council Members need to
remember what constitutes a quorum during informal engagements. Ms. Goodwin also
cautioned that the Town Manager must be careful not to reveal to other Council Members what
the opinions or possible leanings are of their colleagues. Ms. Goodwin acknowledged that the
open meeting law does present some limitations, but does not prevent discussion by Council
Members.
Council Member Ziegler stated that her accidental violation of the open meeting law with her
email was a mistake and she is deeply regretful for any harm it has caused. However, she did
express frustration and hurt regarding the manner in which Town management handled the
situation. Council Member Ziegler did indicate that she would be more diligent in reviewing
how many Council Members she emails at a time and will be sure not respond with opinions that
might be misinterpreted.
Mr. Cassidy addressed Council Member Ziegler's comments and reminded the Council that
when an open meeting law violation occurs, the Town must correct the violation quickly to
ensure the future integrity of all Council decisions post violation. The Town is able to minimize
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an possible dama from the mistake b openl addressin the actual violation and presentin it
in a public forum.
Council Member Kai indicated his personal opinion of Council Member Zie did not
diminish and he still has respect for her, but believes the Council can onl become stron with
this t of trainin
Council Member Bowen expressed concern that some settin like a stud session, do not help
to full illustrate an issue. He understands the constraints the Council faces re the open
meetin law, but is unclear about the proper methods to obtain the more detailed and nuanced
information re for makin an informed decision. Ms. Goodwin acknowled the open
meetin law is not cr clear and there is g re y area to its interpretation and application. She
advised that it is safer to err on the side of caution and assume an issue will come before council.
Ms. Goodwin a emphasized that Council Members can have one-on-one conversations with
the Town Mana for back and histor related to a project, but must limit their
conversations with other Council Members to avoid an accidental violation of the law.
ADJOURNMENT. Motion to adjourn at 6:47p.m. b Council Member Kai, second' provided
b Council Member Bowen. Passed unanimousl 5-0.
CERTIFICATION
I hereb certif that the fore are the true and correct minutes of the Marana Town Council
meetin held on October 7, 2014. 1 further certif that a q uorum was present.
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October 7, 2014 Special Council Meetin Minutes