HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/06/2007 Regular Council Meeting Minutes
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DATE: February 6,2007
PLACE AND DATE
Marana Municipal Complex
A. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
By Mayor Honea at 7:00 p.m.
COUNCIL
Ed Honea
Herb Kai
Bob Allen
Jim Blake
Patti Comerford
Tim Escobedo
Carol McGorray
Mayor
Vice Mayor
Council Member
Council Member
Council Member
Council Member
Council Member
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
Excused
STAFF
Mike Reuwsaat
Gilbert Davidson
Jim DeGrood
Frank Cassidy
Jocelyn Bronson
Town Manager
Deputy Town Manager
Assistant Town Manager
Town Attorney
Town Clerk
Present
Present
Excused
Present
Present
B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND INVOCATION/MOMENT OF SILENCE
Led by Mayor Honea.
c. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Upon motion by Council Member Escobedo, seconded by Council Member Allen, the
agenda was unanimously approved.
D. CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Iles Winder addressed Council regarding his displeasure with the Cortaro Farms Road
project. In particular, he is concerned that real estate is not moving in that area due to
inaccessibility. He also expressed that there is a health and safety issue with the project and
that the posted completion dates are erroneous. The new temporary access road for Cerius
Stravnue is not workable. He stated police, fire, and ambulance access is badly restricted into
Cortaro Ranch which is approximately 207 homes. He asked Council if the Town's cost
higher because of the delays. Also, he wanted to know if anyone was aware that there was
going to be another delay on Cerius Stravenue. Additionally, he wanted to know why Hunter
was not working on weekends or nights. Mr. Reuwsaat stated he did write the questions
down and that they would be back with Mr. Winder in this week.
David Morales addressed Council and stated since he has been attending Council meetings
that the Council action has very little agenda items. He referenced today there are eight
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consent agenda items and for the Council action there are only four. Mr. Morales asked
Council if there was a reason behind this.
E. PRESENTATIONS
ANNOUNCEMENTS/UPDATES
1. PGA Update - Stephen Nutt and Barbara Harris
Mr. Reuwsaat addressed Council and stated the parking lot just offI-10 is 75 percent
complete and should be complete by the end of this week. The Town will be
providing shuttle service to the Heritage Highlands from Wednesday through
Sunday. Most of the work on the interchange is now complete. Today was press day.
They are working everyday to get the word out about the traffic situation to ensure
easy and safe flow during that week.
2. Northwest Medical Center update - David Schultz
Mr. Schultz, Administrator and Chief Operating Officer, Northwest Medical Center,
addressed Council and stated they have put in escrow 58 acres at the comer of
Moore Road and the frontage road to build in about a six to eight year time frame
for Northwest Medical Center, Marana. He expressed his appreciation. He wanted to
thank Forest City Land Group for helping with the project. He stated there was a
news report from Triad Hospital (parent company) that they have decided to take the
company private. All 53 hospitals will no longer be a publicly trade company which
should be finalized in June. He wanted to assure Council that this will have no
impact on the Marana hospital.
3. Introduction of new staff members
Mr. Cassidy introduced new staff members. Laine Sklar is a 2006 law graduate. She
started full-time in August and has been working part-time since January 2006. She
was sworn in as an attorney in November, 2006. She is doing prosecution work. In
addition, Cedric Hay who is a 2001 University of New Mexico law school graduate.
For the last five years he has been with the Pima County Attorney's Office, most
recently in the civil division, doing land use work. He graduated from the U of A in
1996. He will be assisting Mr. Cassidy. Mr. Cassidy stated they are trying to be able
to cover one another's positions. Jane Fairall is now the Deputy Town Attorney.
Cedric is the Senior Assistant Town Attorney and Laine is the Assistant Town
Attorney.
F. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS
Council Member Allen stated that he, the Mayor and Council Member Blake attended the
VIPS (Volunteers in Policing) award presentation. He stated there are citizens in the
community donating extreme amounts of hours, a couple of them over 500 hours. He wanted
to express appreciation to the VIPS.
Vice Mayor Kai stated he attended an event dinner for legislators and representatives.
Mayor Honea stated he attended the VIPS dinner as well and looks forward to keeping the
program going and increasing it if possible. Right now most of the individuals are out of
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Sunflower and Heritage Highlands, but there are some in the Dove Mountain and Continental
Ranch area. These are individuals that go through classes to learn some police procedure.
They don't carry a weapon. They do have a radio. We have an older squad car in both of the
neighborhoods that they can use. They are acting as the eyes and ears of the community. He
stated they saved the Town $142,000 last year.
G. MANAGER'S REPORT: SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS
Mr. Reuwsaat addressed Council and stated the bids for the Wheeler/Abbett junior library
came in almost on target, only $16,000 above on a $4.3 million project. The County has
asked that we consider finding $270,000 to match their $270,000 to build the 5,000 sq. ft.
youth and children's wing on the library. Mr. Reuwsaat stated he would be bringing that to
the next Council meeting for consideration.
H. STAFF REPORTS
Mr. Davidson addressed Council and stated the Tangerine interchange bridge painting, the
installation of landscaping, decorative rock, boulders, and trees are completed. The saguaros
will hopefully be planted this week. A ribbon cutting is scheduled for Tuesday, February 13th
at 4:00 p.m. which is open to the public. It will be on the northeast side across from the
railroad tracks.
The Town received a neighborhood reinvestment grant from the County for the Marana Vista
Estes neighborhood. The grant entails new street lighting, as well as sidewalks. The total
grant amount is approximately $444,000. The Town will probably contribute a little bit more
and will be coming back to Council for approval. They are approximately 50 percent
complete with design. Design will be completed in March. There will be approximately a one
month bid process, then construction with completion sometime this summer.
The Town's GIS department (Geographical Information Systems) has been working the
web site committee to develop a web-based mapping system. What that entails is anyone
visiting the Town's website will be able to print all of our mapping capabilities. It should be
available to the public in June, 2007.
GENERAL ORDER OF BUSINESS
I. CONSENT AGENDA
1. Resolution No. 2007-12: Relating to Elections; approving and authorizing an
intergovernmental agreement between the Town of Marana and Pima
County Division of Elections for the provision of election services for the
period January 1, 2007 through December 31, 2011 (Jocelyn Bronson)
2. Resolution No. 2007-13: Relating to Water; approving and authorizing the
Mayor to execute an intergovernmental agreement for Northwest Water
Providers Central Arizona Project Water System Cost Estimate Study
(Cassidy/DeSpain)
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3. Resolution No. 2007-14: Relating to Water; approving and authorizing the
Mayor to execute a Subcontract among the United States, the Central
Arizona Water Conservation District, and the Town of Marana providing for
water service (Cassidy/DeSpain)
4. Resolution No. 2007-15: Relating to Water; approving and authorizing the
Mayor to execute a Third Amendment to Town of Marana Agreement for
Construction of Water Facilities and Provision of Water Utility Service
(Saguaro Springs) (Frank Cassidy)
5. Relatin2 to Personnel; approving and authorizing reclassifications of two
current positions within the Water Department (Regina Fleming)
6. Resolution No. 2007-16: Relating to Streets; authorizing the naming of an
unnamed easement along Camino de Manana to Desert Falcon Lane (Keith
Brann)
7. Resolution No. 2007-17: Relating to the Police Department; approving and
authorizing full execution of a Memorandum of Understanding with the
Pima County Attorney's Office and the Town of Marana as a partner in the
U.S. Department of Justice Office of Violence Against Women Rural Grant
Application (Richard Vidaurri)
8. Minutes of the January 9, 2007 special meeting.
Upon motion by Vice Mayor Kai, seconded by Council Member Allen, the consent
agenda was approved 5-0 with Council Member Escobedo declaring a conflict of
interest on item 4.
J. COUNCIL ACTION
1. a. Resolution No. 2007-18: Relating to Town Facilities; approving and
authorizing the Mayor to execute an agreement permitting the Gladden
Farms Homeowners Association to use the Marana Heritage House
(Ellis/Cassidy)
Mr. Ellis addressed Council and stated since the renovation they have had
difficulty opening the building on a regular basis. They have had the opportunity
where Gladden Farms HOA will open their offices inside the Heritage House in
coordination with the Parks staff to coordinate events and community happenings.
The Gladden HOA will use two office spaces. We will share use in the front
living room, restrooms and community room. The Marana Arts Council will
continue to use their small office there and also work in coordination with the
HOA and the Parks Department. The house will be open Monday through Friday
from 9:00 a.m. to 3 :00 p.m. and be closed the regular Town holidays.
Council Member Escobedo asked if it was a one year agreement or how long do
they plan on staying there.
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Mr. Ellis stated that their need is for a temporary facility for about eighteen to
twenty months until the commercial site in Gladden Farms is constructed and then
they will move into the permanent office space there.
Council Member Escobedo asked if Forest City was still in control ofthe HOA
and Mr. Ellis stated that they were. Council Member Escobedo asked what the
condition of the home is for the HOA offices that Gladden Farms has on Postvale
and Moore. Mr. Ellis stated he believes that they are using that for office space for
Forest Properties.
Upon motion by Vice Mayor Kai, seconded by Council Member Comerford,
Resolution No. 2007-18 was approved 5-1 with Council Member Escobedo
opposmg.
b. Resolution No. 2007-19: Relating to Parks and Recreation; approving
and authorizing the Town Manager to execute all documents necessary to
purchase and set up the Marana Heritage River Park train equipment;
waiving bid procedures for acquisition of the equipment; and authorizing
the use of uncommitted capital improvement program funding for this
purpose; and declaring an emergency (Tom Ellis)
Mr. Ellis addressed Council and stated they had presented the opportunity to
purchase a 15 gauge model rail train that would run up one mile from the
proposed site of the producer's cotton oil gin building to the agricultural basin
and back. The cost of that train is $230,000. That is the train, the engine, the
track, switch gear, storage containers, track working equipment. The business
plan shows we will need about $63,000 to put the train up and in operation. The
train is currently in Las Cruces, New Mexico. It has to be moved from Las
Cruces to the Heritage Park. The operator of the train for the New Mexico farm
and ranch museum will corne and work with Town staff to set the train up and
get it into operation.
Vice Mayor Kai asked if there were any hidden items to consider such as
crossings, wash crossings, railroad cross arms and would this be designed so that
it will be pretty much out ofthe way oftraffic.
Mr. Ellis stated the rail will run along the base of the flood control structure
around the Tangerine out fall at Gladden Farms Park so the grades are relatively
slight, very little earth work needs to be done to ramp up and around the
Tangerine structure. It will be out of the way. We've also set it out of the way so
that future improvements to the park will not interfere with the train or its
operations. The plan is once the train is at the park it should be up and in
operation in about three months.
Council Member Escobedo asked if would run along the Gladden Farms park.
Mr. Ellis stated it would run along the back of it. Council Member Escobedo
asked what the speed of the train is. Mr. Ellis stated the train, when it's operated,
runs between four and five miles an hour.
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Council Member Allen asked if we did send something out for bid for something
comparable, if there is any type of money savings we are looking at right now.
Mr. Ellis stated he and Mr. DeGrood talked to several manufacturers and to get
the track, an engine and a passenger car it would be at least $850,000.
David Morales addressed Council and wanted to ask if this was going to go into
an enterprise entity. He also asked ifthe Town could afford to spend $300,000
and stated the housing permits have dropped in half.
Council Member Escobedo stated he felt this was a benefit to the community,
especially with the building of the Heritage Park to provide amenities to the
community.
Upon motion by Council Member Escobedo, seconded by Council Member
Comerford, Resolution No. 2007-19 was unanimously approved.
2. PUBLIC HEARING. Ordinance No. 2007.01: Relating to Development;
approving and authorizing a minor general plan amendment and rezoning
for 6055 N. Silverbell Road. (Kevin Kish)
Mr. Kish addressed Council and stated due to ongoing discussions between the
developer and Town staff regarding the number of buildable lots and the impact
of Proposition 207, the project had been continued from December 19, 2006.
The site is comprised of two adjacent parcels that form a triangle shape. The
northwest portion of the property has mild slopping terrain and contains a wash
which runs in a northeast direction. Silverbell Road L.L.C requests for approval
of a change in the zoning on approximately 11.9 acres from the Rl 44 zoning
districts to the R-36 which consists of a 36,000 minimum lot area. The site is
generally located approximately a half mile north of Sunset Road on the west side
of Silverbell Road and is bounded by R-36 to the south and to the northwest by a
mix of single family homes. The applicant is also requesting for a minor
amendment to the general plan. The subject property currently has a designation
of IG (industrial general). However, development patterns in the area suggest that
the residential is a more appropriate use for the site. The majority of the land in
the area west of Silverbell is low density residential. The proposed R-36 zoning
would be consistent with residential components found within the general area.
Access to the proposed subdivided lots would be achieved through the
construction of the new street directly off Silverbell Road. To protect and
preserve the wash on the property and minimize the overall land disturbance, staff
is requiring that the disturbance be limited to no more that 36 percent. There is no
public sewer service within a reasonable distance. The site is being proposed to
have individual septic systems subject to approval of the Pima County DEQ. In
order to protect the Town against potential claims filed under the Arizona
Property Rights Protection Act, the result of the change ofland use laws. The
Town is requiring that a waiver be provided. There is a 15 day time limit with the
waiver to present it to staff.
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Council Member Escobedo asked how the 36 percent land disturbance relates to
the 17 percent that has already been disturbed. Mr. Kish stated in working with
the developer where they can reclaim disturbed land with re-vegetation they will
credit them some of that area. It is a cumulative value so they will not exceed the
36. Ifthey are not able to reclaim it, the 17 would corne off ofthe 36 percent.
Upon motion by Vice Mayor Kai, seconded by Council Member Comerford,
Ordinance No. 2007-01 with recommended conditions was unanimously
approved.
3. PUBLIC HEARING. The Villa2es of Tortolita: Relating to Development;
consideration of the Town of Marana's desire to annex approximately 440
acres within Pinal County that is a part of the proposed Villages of Tortolita
project (Kevin Kish)
Mr. Kish addressed Council and stated that staffhas filed a blank petition with the
Pinal County Recorder's Office. This public hearing is mandated by State statute
to be held within 30 days after such filing. The owners ofthe real property within
the annexation have been notified of the hearing and have been given an
opportunity to speak at the public hearing and the proposed annexation.
Fred Barnett addressed Council and stated he is for annexation in Pinal County.
However, there are some other issues on the plat specific plan regarding an
easement that he has through some of that property. After speaking with Mr. Racy
he believes the issue has been resolved. Mr. Barnett asked if there was a time line
on when the project would begin.
Mr. Reuwsaat stated the zoning is not complete until it comes to Council. The
annexation will be complete after the appropriate amount of signatures is received
and then comes back to Council for approval.
4. PUBLIC HEARING. Resolution No. 2007-20: Relating to Development;
approving and authorizing a Conditional Use Permit for the Saguaro Ranch
Horse Ranch on Appeal from the Planning & Zoning Commission (Kevin
Kish)
Mr. Kish addressed Council stated within the zoning RD-180 public stables and
riding arenas lighted or unlighted may be permitted subject to the conditional use
process. The Town recognizes that certain uses which may be appropriate in
specific zoning districts, but which may have characteristics depending on the
location design and standards of operation may have a greater impact than
permitted uses on adjoining properties, businesses or residences. Such uses
require more comprehensive review including the ability of the Town to establish
specific conditions for the project in order to mitigate any potential impacts. The
Planning Commission can evaluate only conditional uses listed and is empowered
to grant with conditions or deny any application for the use permit. Such review
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by the commission is subject to findings and the application meeting requirements
ofthe Land Development Code, Section 10.1 O. In this case, the Planning
Commission approved the CUP application and there is an appeal procedure.
Upon determination by the Planning Commission, an action of the Planning
Commission may be appealed to the Town Council by the applicant, a member of
the Town Council, the Town Manager or any property owner within 300 feet of
the property subject to the request. The approval of this CUP was appealed by one
ofthe adjacent property owners within the 300 feet. Under the consideration of
appeal shall be made at a Public Hearing only after notice ofthe hearing has been
placed. The Town Council shall act to affirm or reverse in whole or part or
modify the commission's decision including adding to or denying or deleting
conditions attached to the approval by the Commission. Any action to grant a
conditional use permit either by affirmation, modification or reversal of the
Commission's decision must include the required findings for use permits as
provided in the section. In addition, there are revocation provisions in the Title-l 0
that failure to comply with the conditions, stipulations or terms of the approval of
the conditional use permit is a violation of this Code and will be enforced as such.
Repeated offenses shall be cause for the revoking of the permit. A use permit
granted pursuant to the provisions of this section shall run with the land and
continue to be valid regardless of the ownership of the property or structure so
long as it operates within the conditions, stipulations and terms of this permit. The
original submittal was provided to the Town July 2,2004. The Saguaro Ranch
Development Corporation is requesting approval of a conditional use permit to
allow for two riding arenas in conjunction with a proposed private horse ranch to
be built on part of the Saguaro Ranch gated community.
The horse ranch is proposed to be located on 20-1/2 acres, lots 2-31 which is
currently under review. The site is located approximately % mile north of Moore
Road between Thomydale, Old Ranch House Road and the Blue Teal alignment.
The property to the south and west are within the Town and currently zoned RD-
180, as well. There is a town line there that borders the property to the east and
the northerly tail of this proposed project area to the north and the county zoning
designation is RH or rural homestead. Conceptual site plan has met the setback
requirements for the permit structures, as well as the 100 foot setback for the
arenas as required in our land development code. This use would be considered a
community stable in the county code and would be allowed within the RH
without a conditional use permit on properties often acres or greater. The total
number of horses or cattle out of facility will be restricted based on the land
development Code Title-8.
The architecture of the facilities must adhere to the regulations found in the
Saguaro Ranch CC&Rs and design review covenant which emphasizes traditional
rural Arizona buildings. The intent is for the architecture to be recessive, to blend
in with the natural environment. The horse ranch will be developed in accordance
with the grading restrictions placed on the Saguaro Ranch development. The
maximum amount of disturbance is 20 percent for the entire Saguaro Ranch
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allowable graded area for the overall Saguaro Ranch project. Overall staff and the
Planning Committee have found that this proposal is consistent with the intent of
the general plan and meets the requirements and intent of the conditional use
permit criteria, therefore we are recommending along with the Planning
Commission approval based on the recommended findings of fact found in
section 10.10-D ofthe Land Development Code and subject to 12 recommended
conditions of approval.
Mr. Cassidy stated the way the additional access provision reads is it would
prohibit access for purposes of the horse ranch through any entrance except for
the main entrance. Also, the acronym CAFO stands for concentrated animal feed
lot operations.
Dawn Arnold addressed Council and stated she is opposed to the Planning
Commission's approval of the conditional use permit for the proposed horse
facility. Ms. Arnold stated the welfare and safety of the community will be at risk
if you allow this horse facility to be built. She stated that 95 percent of the
riparian areas in the state have already been lost. This is an area that has been
determined to be a biologically sensitive habitat not only by Pima County, but
also by the State of Arizona. The wash that runs through this facility has been
determined to be the last unchannelized wash in the Tortolita fan. Foot traffic
from live stock, cemented stable floors, parking areas and other structures will
have devastating effects on this wash forever.
She stated there are no other horse facilities in Pima County that can be compared
to this proposed facility. Wherever this facility is located it should be a non-
smoking facility with fire hydrants surrounding it on all four sides. Trucks, truck
drivers, stored hay, smokers on moving horses, these will all greatly increase the
risk of fire danger in the area. This horse ranch needs to be moved away from the
current neighbors and into the center of the subdivision where its residents can
bear the consequences. It also needs to have far few animals. Please do not allow
the conditional use permit to stand. It is not worth the negative long term effects
on this riparian area.
Dorita Brady addressed Council and referenced a letter that a neighbor, Tom
Schramski sent Council on January 29. In his letter, as so many of the neighbors
strongly suggest that you reject this proposal of where the horse facility would be
for a number of reasons. She refers to the letter stating that the hearing in
December seemed to be very one sided, that the community members that were
there including a legal representative who was present to try to answer some of
the questions was not fully considered and questions were not asked of the
representative ofthe neighborhood. While on the other hand, the Saguaro Ranch
representative was allowed to introduce new information and in fact, was able to
rebut some of the information, but the community representative was not. She
stated referring to the letter they are rejecting P & Z's decision in December, that
there were mis-statements made by Saguaro Ranch representative, Mr. Racy.
There were reports, they feel, that were not valid in the information that he
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presented to the Planning and Zoning in December. She asked, does a decision
have to be made that impacts the neighborhood in a negative way.
Tim Blowers addressed Council and stated he was speaking on behalf of himself
and the Tortolita Mountain Homeowners Association of which he has been a
member since about 1990. He has lived in the area since 1982. He is a land
investor. He stated there would be no prudent land buyer that would ever look at a
property next to a facility like this and not wonder if that facility would cause a lot
of problems. This will grossly devalue the facility. He stated if Council were to
vote on this it would be the first in Pima County. He stated ifthere were only 48
animals going to be there and if there were to be no cattle there overnight that
they probably wouldn't be there. The fact of the matter is if it gets to be 120
animals there that they are going to lose on their property values and that would
mandate a no vote. He also stated he is objecting to Mr. Racy representing them.
Larry Wheeler addressed Council and stated he lives on the southeast comer of
this horse project. He addressed that the prevailing winds being from west to east
is a joke that ten months of the year the weather all comes from the northwest to
the southeast. The neighborhood association hired Herbert Havins, who is an
appraiser, to look into this as far as property values are concerned. Mr. Wheeler
read a correspondence from Mr. Havins. Mr. Wheeler stated that Mr. Racy stated
that Mr. James Schwebel, an adjacent land owner, approved ofthe proposed
facility, this was not true. In a recent e-mail Mr. Schweble indicated that this was
not the case. In 2004, Mr. Schweble signed a petition in opposition. Mr. Schweble
is the property just north of Mr. Wheeler.
Mr. Wheeler indicated that Mr. Racy stated that recent Pima County reports
supported the proposed facility. That report does not support or oppose the
facility, but raises concerns about building in a riparian area. Mr. Racy shared an
aerial photograph above the horse facility, the late Denny Willingham, claiming it
was evidence of toleration of our neighborhood of poor horse facility practice
including manure management. Contrary to Mr. Racy's statements, many of the
neighbors had complained to Mr. Willingham and ultimately Pima County. Over
time, Mr. Willingham severely cut back his horse population, improved his
animal care practices before he passed away last year. Mr. Racy shared another
photograph of the neighborhood without identifying the location and again
claimed tolerance of the neighborhood of poor horse management practices. The
photograph showed one horse on a four acre property with no accumulation of
manure or other evidence of poor equine practice. Overall it is our belief that the
representative was allowed to denigrate the neighborhood without evidence by
implying we were incapable or unwilling to manage horse properties. Mr. Racy
admitted that we worked together on a neighborhood watch program,
cooperatively paved a road, and reduced dust pollution at our own expense and
actively contributed to a variety of neighborhood improvements.
Eric Lancaster addressed Council and stated he was invited to the property by the
developers concerning odor. He deals with an organic product that was used
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extensively in the Tsunami for odor control. The main issue was to deal with
concerns for odors and flies. He stated on behalf of the developers that they were
concerned with dealing with odors and odor complaints by using their product.
Theresa Chamberlin addressed Council and stated she is a property owner of 20
acres. The property is located on the north side of the Saguaro Ranch tunnel. She
stated she is in opposition of the implication that simply due to a developer's
personal limitations of having decided there is no better place within the 1000
plus acres he owns to place his private community's equestrian center other than
this particular location should be reason enough to justify this as being a
legitimate reason for doing so. During the planning and zoning meeting in
December, SR representatives went on record stating all access for this facility
would be completely through their tunnel. Based on the concern from the public
regarding SR access for this facility through neighboring community roads the
commission agreed that if the request was granted that this stipulation would be
made a condition which should read something to the effect that all access for this
facility would be strictly through the tunnel.
She stated she would like to address the importance that stipulation be that way
that all access for this facility be through the tunnel, clearly. As communities like
hers would never survive the burden of having any level of this facility's access
placed through the narrow dirt roads that serves her property and that the SR
development already dominates and uses at their discretion currently. While the
main focus ofthis request surrounds the currently proposed location ofthis
facility. It cannot be over looked that if this facility is approved the services it will
provide, as she understands, includes a trail system within the SR development, as
well as outside equestrian access beyond its boundaries. She stated she has heard
that these trials are within close proximity to many properties outside the SR
community which creates enormous concerns for the lack of fire protection in the
outlaying communities. Unlike SR who has fire hydrants and clear access, they do
not have either. Additionally, she does not understand where their equestrian trails
will be located or how close they might be to her property.
Without all the facts being available to the public she is unsure of how the
Council is expected to fully understand how an approval will be implemented.
She asked if there is a map identifying the equestrian trail system in an effort to
fully inform the public or affected properties. It is not necessarily her position that
SR not be granted an equestrian facility. However, if it were to be granted then
based on the fact that it is nothing more than a luxury amenity for an exclusive
private community for private gain offering no benefit to the public then it should
be the sole burden and responsibility of that private community. She stated she
urges Council to consider the importance that all equestrian access be through the
Saguaro Ranch tunnel only be made a condition, as well as a map ofthe trial
system through the SR community provided to the community to view prior to
approval so that any affected properties can better understand where these trails
are to be located and if these trails are within close proximity to outlying
properties and homes and what if any concerns they might represent. It seems
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premature to approve such a request before all the information has been given
especially when you consider these trails are going to accommodate potentially 75
horses a day.
Michael Racy addressed Council on behalf of Saguaro Ranch. Jim Tress from
Westland Engineering will discuss Mr. Havins' letter and the inaccuracies in that
letter and Steve Cole from Southwest Appraisal will discuss both the prior and the
current appraisal which has come to similar conclusions. He stated SR is a 1000
acre project with an equestrian facility located within it. He stated SR on its east is
bordered by unregulated wildcat subdivision areas with one small area recently
accessed by a paved road, but generally dirt roads, drive through washes being
served by exempt wells without any of the regulatory framework that SR has had
to go through as part of a formal subdivision, under grounding power lines,
providing municipal water service, providing on-site waste management system in
each lot that doesn't discharge any pollutants into the aquifer and provides for no
more than 20 percent disturbance on the entire project. He stated there is study
after study talking about the tax burden created by lot split activity and the lack of
infrastructure and therefore access valuation that accompanies that kind of
development and that kind of growth. He referenced the location of the photo he
presented. The identification of it is on the west side of Teal Blue the pictures
were taken from a car on Teal Blue and there is a very significant amount of
manure in that location. He stated it was there when he visited the site two months
ago, two years ago and two and a half years ago. He stated the Pima County letter
speaks for itself. Mr. Schweble's comments are quoted in Mr. Cole's report.
Mayor Honea stated there were CDs from Ms. Cummings that will be entered into
record which are photos of her house and her location to the facility.
Jim Tress, Westland Resources, addressed Council and stated he had the
opportunity to review the letter from Mr. Havins. Mr. Havins refers to the
drainage way that is south of this property. It is an intermittent stream. According
to the Army Corp of Engineers and EPA definitions, it's in a femoral wash. It is
not intermittent. There is a big difference in terms of resource value. The CAFO
regulations can be very complicated. Whether an operation is or is not a CAFO is
dependant on the number of animals that are housed and maintained at that
facility and by any of the definitions used in those regulations this facility does
not have that number of animals. 120 animals proposed is far less than any of the
defined CAFO categories. Mr. Havins points out that the final determination of
whether a facility is a CAFO or not has to be made on a case by case basis
regardless of the number of animals and that is not a correct statement. The final
determination is to be made by the director of AD EQ regardless of size of the
operation is relevant to CAFO designations referenced in a specific portion of the
regulations. In that portion it states that the director shall not designate an animal
feeding operation having less than the number of animals established in the
regulations unless a pollutant is discharged in one of two conditions. A pollutant
would be discharged into navigable water through a man-made ditch flushing
system or other similar device. Conceptual plans prepared to date do not have that
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kind of a facility or that kind of structure associated with them. It would require
the director's inspection and determination if a pollutant was discharged directly
into navigable water that originates outside of, passes over, across, or through the
animal feeding operation. That situation does not exist on this property. The
purpose of the CAFO regulations is to protect water quality. If approved it goes to
design. One ofthose conditions, specifically, the one about a manmade discharge
is established then SR would be obligated to communicate with the director, have
him make a determination and ifhe made that determination, to file notice of
intent 180 days prior to the start of the actual animal operation. At that point, they
would have to comply with all the best management practices that they're
currently incorporating into their plan now. The facility is not a CAFO.
Council Member Escobedo asked Mr. Tress to provide the background for
Westland Resources and his expertise in the field.
Mr. Tress stated Westland Resources is an engineering and environmental
consulting firm. They have been in business in Pima County for 10 years. A
portion of their environmental practice includes compliance and assisting clients
with compliance with the Arizona pollutant discharge elimination system program
for construction sites, mine sites and other facilities. They are familiar with these
regulations and have been working with SR from an environmental planning
prospective nearly from its inception.
Steve Cole, real estate appraiser, addressed Council and stated he holds the MAl
designation and is a member ofthe Appraisal Institute. He has been a practicing
appraiser in Tucson since 1975. His company is called Southwest Appraisal
Associates. He is a former instructor of the Appraisal Institute, U of A, Pima
College, and the Hogan School of Real Estate. He was asked by Saguaro Ranch in
2004 to look at the question of would the proposed horse ranch cause an adverse
impact on value of adjacent property. He submitted a report which was delivered
to the planning commission December 20th. He updated that opinion as of
January 29,2007. He gathered new information. It has been his earnest, unbiased
and most professional effort to provide an opinion as to what the likely effects are
on value of this facility. It is an 80- page report. He has shown six different
subdivisions both areas within subdivisions and outside that show that there is no
adverse impact from equestrian facilities on adjacent lots within the subdivision
or on adjacent properties outside ofthe subdivisions which is a concern that Mr.
Havins brought up in the December 20th hearing.
Council Member Escobedo asked prior to Saguaro Ranch, what was the value of
the homes in the area.
Mr. Cole stated in his appraisal he concentrated on land values because it is easier
to reflect changes in value over time for vacant lots since lots typically don't
change whereas houses can be upgraded, modernized. One of the sections in the
current report indicates that a lot adjacent to Saguaro Ranch on the east side was
purchased for $109,900 in 2003 and two years later, September 2005, was sold for
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approximately $310,000. Lots in this area typically run in the mid-300s. In
Saguaro Ranch the sales are typically almost a million dollars and as high as
$1,800,000. They are now asking a $1,440,000 to start and that is vacant land. He
did a study that is contained in the report that shows land sales in the immediate
area where the neighbors are concerned and compares it to appreciation oflots
just to the east and south and he found no difference in the appreciation rates,
about 40 percent a year from 2003 to 2005.
Mayor Honea asked when the appraisals were done of the properties, was the fact
that a horse facility was there included, and did that have an impact.
Mr. Cole stated he looked at five other areas that have horse facilities. The closest
one was Tortolita Mountain Ranch to the east of Saguaro Ranch. That has about
30 to 40 horses. It could have up to 88 horses by RH zoning in Pima County. One
lot which was purchased in 1994, almost ten acres purchased for just under
$9,000 an acre. They have kept five acres and split off 4.1 acres. This is adjacent
to Tortolita Mountain Ranch and they are now asking $565,000 for that four acre
vacant site. On many of the listings and sales, the real estate agents boast of their
property to the east where the neighbors are of their proximity to Saguaro Ranch
and that also is provided as an addendum to the appraisal.
Council Member Escobedo wanted to give the residents to the east of this
property an opportunity to dispute the value of their property prior to Saguaro
Ranch.
Tim Blowers stated that the properties went up in value all over Arizona. When
Saguaro Ranch went in next door all of a sudden there were a lot less properties
on the market. He stated there is a property adjacent to him asking $600,000.
They've had virtually no one looking at it. He referred to one sale does not make
a compo What is most noticeable is talking about 30 to 40 horses and ifthey were
talking about 30 horses on this site, and if 30 horses were granted on this site, then
he stated he wouldn't feel his property value would drop. He stated there is no
comparables and that nothing like this has been granted in Pima County.
Larry Wheeler stated he wanted to dispute a couple of things Mr. Racy said.
When he spoke about the U of A facility on Campbell they were talking about the
problems they had. It wasn't an example of how it should be done. He stated the
only argument they have is where they're putting the horse facility and that they
are putting it in his backyard. He stated that the values of the properties around
this project will probable go up just not the ones right next to the horse facility.
Council Member Escobedo asked because the number of horses is a considerable
amount, would the applicant be open to a lesser number on the property and they
can determine what that is.
Michael Racy addressed Council and stated the number of animals has always
been driven by the Code. It's always been uncertain what the demand will be. He
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stated they've complied with every provision of the Code. He stated they have
more lots and more homes surrounding this facility on three sides than anyone
else. They want to be good neighbors. They want to resolve the issue and move
forward.
Mayor Honea stated he thought Mr. Blowers had talked about forty and the
application was for 125 and suggested something like 85 and asked if that would
be acceptable to the applicant. Mr. Racy stated that takes it down below what they
could do in a private stable on this size acreage, and by rights all the neighbors
can have, and they can have throughout all the 189 lots in Saguaro Ranch, would
be 17 animals per lot. He stated managing it this way would have far less impact.
He stated ifthat's what it took to get it done. They want to be good neighbors and
they want to get it done.
Mayor Honea asked about where on the site the manure bins would be located.
Mr. Racy stated he heard from some of the neighbors about that. There is a site
plan that showed it next to a parking lot. They would be amenable that any
manure storage is in the western half of the equestrian facility that is removed
from the neighbor side and put on their side. They will be hauling every two days.
It will be in sealed metal containers.
Mayor Honea asked if it was correct that the outdoor arena will have no lights and
no activities there between dusk and dawn.
Mr. Racy stated this is a daytime, dusk to dawn facility. The arena is not lighted.
Council Member Escobedo asked how many of the property owners in this area
own horses.
Dawn Arnold stated they do not own horses, except Teresa Chamberlin's family.
The reason they couldn't have 17 horses per household in Saguaro Ranch is
because it is extremely mountainous. She stated there is a flat land to the north
side in their section 3B of their facility that has been previously grazed and quite
flat and would be a great place away from the neighbors where the facility could
be located.
Council Member Allen stated were they talking about 120 head of livestock or
specifically 120 horses.
Mr. Racy stated that is the total number oflarge animals, primarily horses with a
few roping cattle.
Upon motion by Council Member Comerford, seconded by Council Member
Escobedo, Resolution No. 2007-20 with changes to 85 animals, included in the
recommended conditions as well as access through the tunnel only was approved
5-1 with Vice Mayor Kai opposing.
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K. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/POSSIBLE ACTION
State Legislative Issues: Discussion/Direction/Action regarding legislation
and all pending bills before the Legislature. This item will appear on each
agenda while the Legislature is in session. (Mike Reuwsaat)
No update.
L. BOARDS COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES
M. EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
Executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3), (4) and (6) for legal
advice with the Town Attorney concerning water rights issues and to consult
with and instruct the Town Attorney and the Town Manager on the Town's
position regarding various pending contract and property acquisition
negotiations with the goal of securing additional Town water resources.
Upon motion by Council Member Escobedo, seconded by Council Member
Comerford, to convene to executive session was unanimously approved.
Mr. Cassidy stated in executive session staff presented two different water
resource acquisition negotiation requests for authorization to proceed.
Authorization is requested to proceed with those two separate negotiations as
discussed in executive session.
Upon motion by Council Member Comerford, seconded by Council Member
Blake, two separate negotiations as discussed in executive session were
unanimously approved.
N. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
O. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Council Member Escobedo, seconded by Council Member Comerford,
Council voted unanimously to adjourn.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing are the true and correct minutes of the Marana Town Council
meeting held on February 6, 2007. I further certify that a quorum was present.
o lyn C. Br son, Town Clerk
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