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MEETING
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TOWN OF MARANA
MEETING DATE:
March 20, 2007
AGENDA ITEM: L.t
TO: MAYOR AND COUNCIL
FROM: Michael A. Reuwsaat, Town Manager
SUBJECT: State Leeislative Issues: Discussion/Direction/Action regarding all
pending bills before the Legislature
DISCUSSION
This item is scheduled for each regular council Meeting in order to provide an opportunity to
discuss any legislative item that might arise during the current session of the State Legislature.
Periodically, an oral report may be given to supplement the Legislative Bulletins.
A TT ACHMENTS
Legislative Bulletin, Issues 9 and 10.
RECOMMENDATION
Upon the request of Council, staff will be pleased to provide recommendations on specific
legislative issues.
SUGGESTED MOTION
Mayor and Council's pleasure.
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League of Arizona
Cities AND Towns
IN THIS
ISSUE
Revenue Sharing Attack
Defeated ................................
Sewer Mandate To Be Heard
On The House Floor On
Monday................................. 2
Title 34 Compromise Passes
The House ............................. 2
Signs, Signs, Everywhere
Signs ..................................... 2
Little Progress On County
Island Fire District Bills ........ 3
Distilled Spirits ..................... 3
In The Spotlight .................... 3
Legislative Bul/etin is published by the
League of Arizona Cities and Towns.
Forward your comments or
suggestions to:
League of Arizona Cities & Towns
1820 West Washington Street
Phoenix, Arizona 85007
Phone: 602-258-5786
Fax: 602-253-3874
Email: league@azleague.org
Internet: www.azleague.org
Issue 9, March 2, 2007
REVENUE SHARING ATTACK DEFEATED
By a 5-6 vote, members of the Senate Appropriations Committee defeated Senate Bill
1246, which proposed a 15 percent tax credit for county residents that would have
been paid for by the cities' and towns' urban revenue sharing fund.
Many thanks to all of you who made your voices heard by contacting the committee
members. A special thanks to Show Low Councilman Gary Whipple and St. Johns
Town Manager Eric Duthie for coming to Phoenix to testify on the bill. League
Director Ken Strobeck and Phoenix lobbyist Kevin DeMenna also spoke against the
bill.
Please take a moment and send a quick note of thanks to the SiX members of the
Appropriations committee who voted against the bill:
The 6 "No" votes
Members
Paula Aboud
Amanda Aquirre
Carolvn S. Allen
Jake Flake
Jorqe Luis Garcia
Albert Hale
602-926-
5262
4139
4480
5219
4171
4323
E-Mail
paboud@azleq.qov
aaquirre@azleq.qov
callen@azleq.qov
iflake@azleg.gov
iqarcia@azleq.qov
ahale@azleq.qov
District
28
24
8
5
27
2
If you would prefer to send a written note:
The Honorable (Senator's Name)
State Senator
1700 West Washington - Senate
Phoenix, Arizona 85007
We remain concerned about Senate Bill 1035, which funds the construction of a DPS
crime lab with urban revenue sharing funds. The bill barely passed out of the
Appropriations committee a couple of weeks ago, but has not moved since. We'll
continue to keep an eye on it and let you know if action is needed.
SEWER MANDATE TO BE HEARD
ON THE HOUSE FLOOR ON
MONDAY
House Bill 2066, which mandates local government
sewer operators to locate and mark privately owned
sewer laterals, is scheduled for the Committee of the
Whole in the House on Monday afternoon. While the
League and many cities and towns are meeting with
the other stakeholders to discuss alternative options to
address the sewer lateral issue, it is very important
that your legislators know your concerns on the
current version of the bill. Below are our talking
points for your convenience:
Unnecessary Exvansion of Government
Local governments would have to expand their
water/sewer departments and institute another layer of
permitting regulations to implement this mandate.
Increased Costs for our Shared Constituents
Water and sewer bills may increase as a result of this
legislation. While the language allows for some cost
recovery via permit fees, the amendment calls for
"reasonable" permit charges. This language is vague,
ignoring the fact that there is no clear data on the
possible costs associated with locating these privately
owned sewer laterals. As a result, any funding short
fall will be offset in an increase in municipal water
rates.
Safetv Issue Not Resolved
During stakeholders meetings that have been ongoing
since the fall of 2006, Southwest Gas Co.
representatives stressed their concern with safety,
concerned that their contracted excavators may not
exercise the safest methods in locating the sewer
lateral, creating the potential for an incident that may
lead to property damage, or worse, loss of life. The
reality is that, given the small number of available
contractors, the vast majority of political subdivisions
will hire the same excavation companies to provide
the same service they currently are to Southwest Gas
Co., maintaining - not diminishing - the potential for
an incident.
Unreliable Information on the Location of Sewer
Laterals
The vast majority of public water/sewer departments
do not have accurate information on the location of
privately owned sewer laterals. As communities have
grown throughout time, local governments have
invested their resources into the water/sewer
infrastructure needed to provide water and collect
sewage. Developments connect to the public
water/wastewater system; the sewer operator does not
connect to private property. As a result, information is
not collected on how these connections run from the
water/sewer mains to the property, meaning that local
governments do not know where these laterals are
located.
Local Governments Have Alreadv Comvromised to
Previous Lezislation
In 2005, local governments agreed to locate and mark
sewer laterals for residential developments built after
January 1, 2006. Although this agreement did pose a
challenge, it was seen as manageable and a "good
faith" effort to seek compromise with Southwest Gas
Co. This legislative proposal runs contrary to this
compromise, not even a year after its implementation.
TITLE 34 COMPROMISE PASSES
THE HOUSE
House Bill 2065 passed the House with a 55-4 vote
this week. This bill is the compromise reached
between the League, the County Supervisors
Association (CSA) and the Associated General
Contractors (AGC) on researching road maintenance
work and compliance with Title 34. The portion of
the bill that increases the penalty for violations affects
all municipalities. However, the other part of the bill
requires 15 cities or towns, all 15 counties and AGC
to enter into an agreement to look at our records
regarding road maintenance activities over the next
two years. AGC selected the 15 municipalities that
they would like to participate and the League will be
contacting those cities and towns in the near future
with more details.
SIGNS, SIGNS, EVERYWHERE
SIGNS
House Bill 2369, the temporary signage bill, stalled
mysteriously in the House of Representatives this
week. As you may recall, this bill is an attempt to
micro-manage cities' and towns' ability to regulate
signs in their communities. Representative Bob
Robson, the sponsor of the bill, put on an amendment
on the floor that would totally override a
municipality's ordinances in this area. The
amendment also created an unfunded mandate for an
association of municipalities to issue an annual report
on the use of the fees collected.
We vehemently opposed this bill due to it total
disregard for local control. Representatives Steve
Farley and Theresa Ulmer both spoke of how this bill
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Signs, Signs, Everywhere Signs contd.
is an intrusion on local government, cItmg that the
people in municipalities are fully capable of re?ulating
these types of issues via their own elected officIals.
Typically when a bill disappears from a floor calendar
it means that there are not enough votes for passage.
To ensure this bill does not reappear, contact your
members and let them know that citizens and local
officials are fully capable of regulating signs in their
own communities. If you need assistance with
contacting you member please contact League
Legislative Associate Dale Wiebusch at 602-258-
5786. Let's hope this bill on temporary signs was
itself "temporary."
LITTLE PROGRESS ON
COUNTY ISLAND FIRE
DISTRICT BILLS
Discussions have continued this week on House Bill
2780, the House version of County Island Fire District
legislation affecting cities and towns in Maricopa
County. Meanwhile, Senate Bill 1556, the League-
endorsed consensus bill that passed out of the Senate
by a vote of 24-5-1, has not yet been First Read and
assigned to a House committee.
Representatives Bob Robson and Andy Biggs have
continued to focus discussions on House Bill 2780,
which they and some other members sponsored in the
House. The principal difference between the two bills
is a provision in the House bill that would require
cities and towns to provide fire service to county
islands within their borders if they do not agree to
provide service voluntarily through an
Intergovernmental Agreement or if a private fire
service provider does not respond through the Request
For Proposal (RFP) process.
A number of items relating to the mandate discussion
have been explored, but so far there has been no
agreement. The House sponsors say a mandate is
necessary as a failsafe to provide coverage to county
island residents who would not be covered by any
other fire service. The League does not support this
notion. Discussions will continue next week.
DISTILLED SPIRITS
House Bill 2391, the spirituous liquor omnibus bill,
might as well be known as the roller coaster bill for all
of its ups and downs. After being pulled from a floor
calendar last week, it showed up again on a Committee
of the Whole agenda this week where it was amended,
somewhat to our satisfaction. Then it was yanked
from its Third Read slot.
We had a meeting with stakeholders and House
members to try and iron out the differences, but we
remain apart on some key issues. The liquor
industry's and restaurant industry' s representati~es
claim that the bill does not make any substantIve
changes to the law and how the Liquor Department
operates. We see it differently. We think th~ bill
waters down the effectiveness of the Liquor
Department and increases the likelihood of
problematic establishments.
We want to have a successful hospitality industry in
Arizona. We want a strong and effective Liquor
Control Department. The two are not mutually
exclusive. The League will continue to work with all
stakeholders until our concerns have been alleviated.
Until then we are still opposed to the measure.
IN THE SPOTLIGHT
Representative Jackie Thrasher,
Legislative District 10, has been an
Arizona resident for 46 years,
moving to Phoenix from Detroit in
1960. In her youth she lived in
northwest Phoenix, attending Palo
Verde Elementary School and Apollo High School in
Glendale. After graduating from high school, Jackie
attended Glendale Community College, transferring to
Arizona State University and graduating in 1979 with
a Bachelor of Music degree in Instrumental Music
Education.
Although just in her first year as a legislator,
Representative Thrasher has shown a keen interest in
local government and the League. She attended a
League sponsored luncheon for first year members and
seeks our input on legislative matters.
1. How do you see local government impacting
people's lives?
I think most people consider local government more
relevant to their daily lives, more so than that of
government at the state and national level, because it is
the closest to the people. Local governments have the
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ability to provide the opportunity for citizens to
participate in the process of making their communities
great places to live and work.
2. What is one issue you see as particularly
important to local government this session?
I think that the most important issue would be the
ability to attract and retain qualified public safety
professionals that help keep our neighborhoods safe.
Having said that, I believe that state shared revenues
must be protected in order to provide the level of
public safety on which our families depend.
3. Tell us something about your family and
friends (favorite things to do with children,
friends, etc.?).
I'm a band director, my husband is a band director and
my two (grown) children played trumpet all the way
through high school. Needless to say, music is our
thing! I've been married to John 27 years, my son will
soon be a conductor with BNSF on the Needles to
Winslow route, and my daughter is a senior Computer
Science major at the University of Arizona. In
addition to my Legislative duties, I am still teaching at
Lookout Mountain School on Fridays.
4. What is your favorite vacation spot?
Waikoloa, Big Island, Hawaii
5. What's your favorite hobby?
I can't name just one! I love to read, play
flute, have dinner with friends and of course-
talk politics!
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League of Arizona
Cities AND Towns
IN THIS
ISSUE
County Island Talks
End................. ............1
Blue Stake Legislation
Stalled; Quick Action May
Be Needed................. .....1
Construction Sales Tax Bill
Coming Back................... 2
Weapons Mandate To Be
Heard On Wednesday...... 2
Impact Fees Bill Passes
House Committee ...........3
League Website Bill To Be
Heard In Committee On
Thursday.......................... 3
Water Preemption
Reconsidered And Passes
The Senate....................... 3
When Tenants Don't Pay
Their Water Bill .............. 3
Sign Bill Passes House.... 3
Senate Bill 1286: Victims'
Rights Omnibus............... 3
Problem Liquor Bill
Advances .........................4
Contractor Verification Bill
Advances......................... 4
The Weekly Spotlight...... 4
Legislative Bulletin is published
by the League of Arizona Cities
and Towns. Forward your
comments or suggestions to:
League of Arizona Cities &
Towns
1820 West Washington Street
Phoenix. Arizona 85007
Phone: 602-258-5786
Fax: 602-253-3874
Email: league({~azleague.org
Internet: www.azleague.org
Issue 10, March 9, 2007
COUNTY ISLAND TALKS END
Despite our best, good-faith efforts to find a compromise, the sponsors of House Bill
2780 have decided to end discussions on the bill and are offering a floor amendment to
the bill that will mandate that cities provide fire protection services to county islands.
This goes against one of our most basic principles of local control and one of the
League's most important resolutions this year. We expect the amendment to be offered
on the House floor next week.
The amendment provides that if a county island cannot get a city or a private provider to
provide fire service to the area, then the surrounding municipality must provide fire
service. It also authorizes a three-person panel-made up of a fire district representative,
a city representative and a third person they choose-to set the secondary property tax
rate, but leaves in place the statutory limit of $3.15 per hundred dollars of valuation.
The language of the amendment says this applies only to areas that do not have fire
service as of January 1, 2007. The provisions of the bill still apply only in Maricopa
County, but this bad precedent could become statewide in the future.
Meanwhile, a widely accepted alternative, Senate Bill 1556, has finally been assigned to
the House Counties, Municipalities and Military Affairs Committee (CMMA), chaired by
long-time city advocate Representative John Nelson, but is not yet scheduled for a
hearing. We will continue to support this bill as the consensus alternative that does not
have a state-imposed mandate.
BLUE STAKE LEGISLATION STALLED: QUICK ACTION MAY BE
NEEDED
In this week's stakeholder meeting on the blue stake issue, Representative John Nelson
decided to not push the blue stake legislation forward due to lack of agreement between
the municipalities and Southwest Gas. He requested clarification on the issue from the
Attorney General's Office instead, an action that often takes months to get an answer.
Once a response is received, the interested parties will again meet to discuss the response
and our options at that point.
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Blue Stake Legislation stalled; Quick Action
May Be Needed Contd.
While it now appears that House Bill 2066 will not
move forward this session, a strike everything
amendment on this issue could appear in a committee
at any time. Please contact your members to
update them on where this issue is at (it won't
move forward this session while discussions
continue at the local level) and that you remain
opposed to any mandate to locate and mark these
facilities.
If such an amendment appears, the League will be
sending out a call for action to oppose. Please
respond to that request as soon as you receive it. We
have to let legislators know loud and clear our
opposition on this issue. Please contact Cheyenne at
the League office with any questions.
WEAPONS MANDATE TO BE HEARD IN
COMMITTEE ON WEDNESDAY
Senate Bill 1251, which increases last year's
restrictions on our ability to regulate weapons in
public events, was held in committee this week and
we anticipate that it will be heard again next week.
This bill, sponsored by Senator Chuck Gray, makes
significant changes to the law that just went into effect
less than six months ago. The bill requires your
storage facility to be within 200 ft. of the main
entrance to the building. In addition, the storage must
have individual compartments that are keyed and the
owner must be able to retain the key. In addition,
cities and towns may not ask for or record any
identification or the serial number of the weapon.
Please contact the following Government
Committee members on this issue before
Wednesday afternoon's meeting to oppose this
public safety hazard:
Representative Phone Email
Kirk Adams, Chair 602-926-5495 kadamsrii)azleo. <~ov
Jonathan Paton, VC 602-926-3235 inaton(iDazlcg.oov
Tom Boone 602-926-3297 tboonc((z)azleo. (Jov
Rav Barnes 602-926-5503 rbarnes((ziazlc,'. (JOV
Rich Crandall 602-926-3020 rcrandall(iDazlco. (Jov
Warde Nichols 602-926-5168 wnichols(o)azlcg. gOV
Mark Anthony Desimone 602-926-3037 mdesimoncllVazleg. gOY
Steve Farley 602-926-3022 sfarlev1aJ,az!eu.oov
Martha Garcia 602-926-5830 mnarciafii)azleg. gOY
Lena Saradnik 602-926-3398 lsaradnikra)azleo.oov
CONSTRUCTION SALES TAX BILL
COMING BACK
The House Government Committee will also utilize
the controversial strike-everything amendment on
Senate Bill 1544, to put on the provisions of Senate
Bill 1366. The bill was brought earlier in the session
by the Homebuilders Association of Central Arizona.
The amendment mandates that cities and towns
dedicate 50 percent of construction sales tax revenue
to new development infrastructure if that city or town
levies a construction sales tax rate that is higher than
the average rate imposed on the other sales tax
classifications.
We need YOU to contact the members of the
Government Committee for this bill as well.
Please let them know that:
. Sales taxes constitute the main source of
general fund revenue for many small
communities.
. This bill could jeopardize essential services
such as:
o Public safety
o Transportation
o Trash collection.
. This bill allows special interest groups to
dictate the expenditures of local revenues
instead of the locally elected officials.
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Construction Sales Tax Bill Coming Back
Contd.
Please call Jeff Kros at the League (602-258-5786) if
you have any questions. Your input and participation
are essential.
IMPACT FEES BILL PASSES HOUSE
COMMITTEE
Senate Bill 1423 passed unanimously in the House
Counties, Municipalities and Military Affairs
Committee on Tuesday. The bill was supported in
committee by all interested parties, including much of
the development community. We look forward to this
bill moving through the House and to the Governor's
desk. Information on this bill and its current
provisions has been emailed to each city and town. If
you would like more information, please contact
Cheyenne Walsh at the League office.
LEAGUE WEBSITE BILL TO BE HEARD
IN COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY
House Bill 2208 is the League's bill that extends the
deadline created in last year's mandate to post certain
information on our websites. This bill makes that
deadline 10 working days rather than the three
currently allowed in the law. It also clarifies that
minutes or a recording may be posted to meet the
requirement. Please contact members of the Senate
Government Committee and ask them to support
House Bill 2208.
WATER PREEMPTION RECONSIDERED
AND PASSES THE SENATE
Senate Bill 1119 preempts municipalities from
regulating water use in irrigation districts if their
service areas overlap. Aside from the preemption, this
bill is concerning in that irrigation districts have a lot
of flexibility in developing conservation standards and
are able to use ground water, which threatens our
state's ability to maintain a stable water supply for the
future. This bill failed in the Senate Committee of the
Whole with a 14-16 vote several weeks ago. It was
reconsidered this week and passed 16-12 with
Senators Linda Gray and Barbara LefT changing
their votes. The League appreciates those Senators
that continued to oppose this preemption. This bill
now moves to the House for consideration.
WHEN TENANTS DON'T PAY THEIR
WATER BILL
A bill working its way through the process could
change the way municipal water utilities collect back
payments. Senate Bill 1359 would prohibit cities and
towns from refusing to turn the water back on to a
dwelling until the back payments are made. A
number of cities are concerned because turning off the
water and refusing to restore service until the
payments are made helps enforce collections.
Proponents of the bill argue that the landlord or a
future lessee should not be held responsible for the
late payments of a lessee when the landlord was not a
party to the contract. Many cities agree with that
position and protect their interests through security
deposits. Other cities claim that the landlord is
ultimately responsible for services to the dwelling and
that security deposits the landlord is entitled to collect
under the law are supposed to cover this cost of doing
business.
We will oppose this bill.
SIGN BILL PASSES HOUSE
House Bill 2369, the temporary sign bill, did indeed
rise again. The bill that totally overrides local control
when it comes to temporary signs had a Third Read in
the House of Representatives on Thursday, March 8,
2007. It unfortunately passed 36-21, with three
members not voting. Representatives Steve Farley
and Tom Prezelski spoke strongly about the attack on
local control and the legislature's attempt to micro-
manage. It now goes to the Senate. We need to now
educate our senators on what a bad bill this is. If you
need help contacting your Senators please contact
Dale Wiebusch at 602-258-5786.
SENATE BILL 1286: VICTIMS' RIGHTS
OMNIBUS
On the surface, Senate Bill 1286, the victims' rights
omnibus bill, is a strong statement designed to assist
crime victims through the judicial process.
Unfortunately, it has a few unintended consequences.
First, it requires that prosecutors provide notice to
victims of motions to continue, but most of those
motions are made at the pre-trial stage. There is no
practical way prosecutors could give notice to the
victim that a motion has been filed before it is ruled
on.
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Senate Bill 1286: Victims' Rights Omnibus
Contd.
The second major problem we see involves getting
victims transcripts of proceedings. Municipal courts
record the proceedings instead of transcribing. The
bill requires those recordings to be transcribed. There
is quite a cost to that. Currently if a proceeding is
over 90 minutes in Phoenix they contract with a
transcription company. In 2004-2005 fiscal year there
were 16,077 pages transcribed, at $3.25 a page --
that's over $52,000! With this bill the increased work
load could require at least another person to be hired.
It would be easier to supply a victim with an
electronic copy that would afford them the goal of
information without the courts incurring substantial
costs. We will work towards amending this bill to
address our concerns.
If you have questions on this bill please contact Dale
Wiebusch at 602-258-5786.
PROBLEM LIQUOR BILL ADVANCES
House Bill 2391, the spirituous liquor omnibus bill,
passed through the House with 39 votes this past week
over the objections of the League and several cities.
The bill is scheduled to be heard in the Senate
Commerce Committee next week.
We remain concerned that the Department of Liquor
Licenses and Control's (DLLC) loses its ability, under
the bill, to stop those establishments that egregiously
flout the food threshold from operating. The bill
currently strips the Department of its power to revoke
the restaurant license from establishments where food
sales do not comprise at least 30 percent of their gross
receipts. The liquor industry is adamant that the word
"revoke" not be used because that hurts their ability to
obtain liquor licenses in other states. We will work
toward a way to help the industry without
compromising the Department's ability to rid our
neighborhoods of bad establishments.
The liquor industry is also trying to create a legal
"safe harbor" for establishments that use a scanning
device. Rather than using reasonable judgment to
ascertain whether a person is of legal drinking age
when examining the IDs, they want to scan the ID,
photograph the person and hide behind the safe
harbor. This is unacceptable and would make it easier
for underage persons to obtain liquor.
We are continuing to work with the industry, the
liquor department and legislative members to work
out our concerns.
CONTRACTOR VERIFICATION BILL
ADVANCES
Another bill causing consternation among some cities
is Senate Bill 1483, which contains a provision that
cities and towns (really all public entities) must verifY
a contractor's license information with the Registrar
of Contractors before issuing a building permit.
Some cities fear this could open them up to liability if
the Registrar's information is incorrect and a building
permit is wrongly granted.
Another concern is the cost of compliance and the
bottleneck that could result with this new line of red
tape. Other cities tell us this they have been verifYing
with the Registrar for years.
We will continue to watch this bill and make our
concerns known to the members.
THE WEEKLY SPOTLIGHT-
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN MCCOMISH
This section of our bulletin
focuses on legislators who have
been supportive of the League.
This week we feature
Representative John McComish,
Legislative District 20. A native
of Ohio, Representative
McComish graduated from
Colgate University in 1965. He
spent the next 24 years climbing
the corporate ladder with several Fortune 500
companies. He was named National Sales Manager
with Johnson & Johnson at the age of 35.
In 1989, he decided to leave the corporate world,
moved to Arizona and opened a bookstore. After
seven successful years as a small business owner, he
closed the door of the bookstore and took over as
President of the fledgling Ahwatukee Foothills
Chamber of Commerce in 1996. Since that time, the
Chamber has grown from 64 members to over 500. He
recently retired from being the President. In addition
to his Chamber responsibilities, McComish served on
the City of Phoenix Planning Commission and has
been Chair of the Ahwatukee Foothills Village
Planning Committee.
John McComish and Karen, his wife of 40 years, live
in Ahwatukee where she is a teacher in the Kyrene
School District. They have two adult children and two
grandchildren.
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The Weekly Spotlight Contd.
How do you see local government impacting people's
lives?
Local government has the most direct impact on
people's daily lives. Decisions made by cities and
towns affect the basics of their everyday existence.
Police, fire, streets, sanitation - all these departments
have an impact on all citizens every day. I mean this
in a very positive way when I say that the local
governments have to do the "dirty work". It is often
not glamorous, but critical.
What issues do you see as particularly important to
local government this session?
One issue that is particularly important to local
government this session: Well, it is impossible to pick
one, but, if I must, it will be transportation. Weare at
a crossroads regarding transportation in our state. Our
cities will continue to grow and the state must provide
the transportation infrastructure, where we have
unfortunately fallen behind. Decisions we make in the
legislature this year and next regarding transportation
modes and funding will have far-reaching
implications.
Tell us something about your family (favorite things to
do with children, grandchildren, etc?)
My wife and I have two children and two
grandchildren, all of whom live in the Berkshire
Region of Western Mass. Our favorite thing in the
summer is obviously to visit them. For recreation at
other times, we enjoy hiking in South Mountain Park.
What is your favorite vacation spot?
See above answer, as long as we are with the
grandchildren.
What are your favorite hobbies?
Well, it used to be politics. Now it is my vocation. I
enjoy all spectator sports, especially rooting for the
Diamondbacks and Suns.
Thank you for your time.
Thanks for asking me to participate.
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