HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-05-2022 Special Council Meeting Summary Minutes MARANA AZ
CELEBRATING 45 YEARS
MARANA TOWN COUNCIL
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
11555 W. Civic Center Drive, Marana, Arizona 85653
Marana Police Department Community Room, October 5, 2022, at or after 11:00 AM
Ed Honea, Mayor
Jon Post, Vice Mayor
Patti Comerford, Council Member
Jackie Craig, Council Member
Herb Kai, Council Member
John Officer, Council Member
Roxanne Ziegler, Council Member
SUMMARY MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Mayor Honea called the meeting to order at 11:06 AM and directed Town Clerk to call
the roll. Present: Mayor Honea, Vice Mayor Post [present at 11:11 AM and not present
sometime after approximately 12:05 PM], Council Member Craig, Council Member
Officer, Council Member Comerford [present at 11:10 AM], and Council Member
Ziegler. Excused: Council Member Kai. The Town Clerk stated a quorum was present.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/INVOCATION/MOMENT OF SILENCE: Led by Mayor
Honea.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Council Member Ziegler moved, and Council Member Officer seconded the motion, to
approve the agenda as dapresented. Motion passed, 6-0.
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ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/POSSIBLE ACTION
D1 Relating to Parks and Recreation: Presentation, discussion and update
regarding the Multi-Generational Community Center and Aquatics Facility
project and possible direction related to budget authority and preferred
amenities.
Town Manager Terry Rozema provided opening remarks. Mr. Rozema said there have
been many meetings with staff, the community, and stakeholders regarding this project,
along with a visit up to a similar facility in Goodyear, Arizona. He said this meeting has
two important focal points: facility amenities and cost. He explained that the S47 million
included in the Master Plan would no longer be enough for the desired amenities due to
subsequent increases in cost,and so a balance may be needed between cost and amenities.
The goal of the meeting was to receive the Council's guidance and direction.
The project team was introduced as follows:
• Mr. Mike Rosso Architect/Project Manager with Architekton, Inc.
• Mr. John Kane, Architect with Architekton, Inc.
• Mr. Ryan Grabe, Architect with Architekton, Inc.
• Mr.Peter Nimmer,Senior Project Manager with Abacus Project Management,Inc.
Mr. Nimmer was introduced as the Project Manager for the Town.
Mr. Rosso provided a PowerPoint presentation on behalf of the project team, a copy of
which is on file in the Town Clerk's Office. He said the goals of the meeting were to: (1)
provide the Council with an update on what has been done, (2) receive Council's input,
and (3) discuss and receive direction related to the budget for this project.
(1) Goal 1: Update on what has been done
Mr. Rosso summarized the Goodyear recreation facility tour and showed
photographs of the Goodyear facility in the PowerPoint slides. He highlighted
what Goodyear liked and disliked about the facility. He said Goodyear thought
the lobby area could have been larger and that it should have been designed to
give staff a better visual of the gym and other areas from the control desk.He said
Goodyear felt the gym was always packed and wished they had constructed a
third court. The fitness area was good and had a diversity of equipment that
didn't compete with local industry. Goodyear said if they were to do it again,
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they would have straightened out the lazy river or eliminated it due to the
amount of lifeguard staff required. Goodyear's recreation pool with slides and a
water feature was a big hit, as was the teen lounge. Goodyear felt the teen lounge
could have been twice the size and said it gets used all the time. Goodyear's
competition pool was a 25-yard pool, which is likely the most
multifunctional/multi-use kind of pool. Goodyear's community room was
booked every weekend and was a huge revenue generator.
Mr. Rosso next summarized the visioning sessions, community outreach, and
focus group efforts for this project. He said the goal of these efforts was to hear
what the community wanted and explained the dot polling and
image/conceptual boards. He said outreach events included a dive-in movie,
geographical outreach, and time with Town stakeholders, including with Town
staff, the Marana Chamber of Commerce, the Marana Unified School District
(MUSD), Marana's Police Department (MPD), and the Northwest Fire District
(NWFD). Focus groups included seniors, teens, and youth, and they touched on
aquatics, e-sports, and sports. Mr. Rosso showed a slide outlining the outreach
timeline, stating there have been 11 outreach exercises thus far with additional
outreach efforts scheduled for the evening of October 6, 2022 and for the Fall
Festival event on October 15, 2022. There is also an online survey on the Town
website for additional input. He explained that the results of these efforts led to
the following discovered priorities:
• Recreation amenities: indoor sports/multi-purpose courts, large
open space, indoor track, functional/strength training, and holistic
health/wellness studios.
• Community amenities: multi-purpose community room, multi-
purpose classroom, multi-purpose performing arts area, and teen
room for computers/games.
• Exterior amenities: community center/aquatic center/park, splash
pad, parking lot transformation capability, sand sports, parking and
transportation, field activities, and relaxation spaces.
• Aquatic amenities: night swimming capability, competitive
swimming, lazy river, ninja/interactive course, and ample shade
and misters. A surfing wave pool was identified as a priority,but the
project team decided it would not be feasible from a cost standpoint.
• Architectural features: indigenous landscape, shade roof,
daylighting, showcasing interior from exterior, and an
interior/exterior opening wall.
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Mr. Rosso showed the Preliminary Program slide and said the preliminary
programing differed from the Master Plan. The program includes a larger lobby,
three gymnasium courts instead of two, a larger walking track, a bigger
cardio/functional training loft, a larger multi-purpose/community room, a 25-
yard pool instead of a 50-meter pool, the bath house being located in shared
locker rooms, and two bodies of water (a lap pool and a recreation pool with
slides, a water resistance channel instead of a lazy river, etc.).
Mr. Rosso said the community center square footage would be approximately
66,225 square feet and the aquatic center would be approximately 41,100 square
feet, and that it was likely with certain circulation efficiencies to get the square
footage of the community center down to 61,000 square feet.
Mr. Rozema proposed a lunch break. Mayor Honea concurred and a lunch break was
taken from 12:05 PM until 12:26 PM. During the lunch break, Vice Mayor Post left the
meeting.
Mr. Kane presented after lunch. He showed slides with concept depictions and
said he would explain where the project is today. He said they went through a
series of explorations and went over various schemes. He stated there was a lot
of land to work with and that the desire was to have an urban-looking project that
would be catalytic and attract other business development in the area.
Mr. Kane said the building was positioned so that programs would be of interest
to those on the sidewalk, so the sidewalk would be shaded, and for height
comparisons with other buildings, and he showed a concept depiction with art
murals along an exterior wall. He said the gym would be the primary element at
the corner of Bill Gaudette Drive and Marana Main Street that would anchor the
corner and provide a wonderful urban edge. He also discussed positioning the
pools, parking, and other amenities,worked on the floor plan, lighting plan, and
parking plan, and he showed various slides with design concepts. Please see the
PowerPoint slides for these depictions. He said many schemes came forward and
were combined throughout the process. Mr. Rosso stated that stakeholders were
also involved.
Mr. Kane showed the conceptual floor plan for the first floor of the facility and
described the design of the lobby and front desk area. He said they were still
determining whether the front lobby area should have an open concept that
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showed off the entire facility or whether it should leave more of a surprise
element as people walk through. He said they took solar orientation into account
and the desire to have surveillance as centrally located as possible. He said there
will be steps for people to sit on next to the gym. He described the lifeguard areas
and office functions, changing areas, and restrooms that are designed to serve
both the recreation center and the aquatics area.
Mr. Kane showed the conceptual floor plan for the second floor. He described a
studio exercise and fitness training loft area with great views of the Catalina
mountains. He said the indoor track wraps around and above the gym and has
views of the mountains/sunsets to the west and the Catalinas to the east. If the
budget allows, they are considering expanding the track to go over the locker
r000ms.
Mr. Kane then showed a series of conceptual design vignettes, which can be
viewed in the PowerPoint presentation. Mr. Kane focused on efforts to invite
people from Marana Main Street to the front door, including shading, a pocket
park,a story wall,and as much glass as possible. He discussed various challenges
in capturing views from all angles while still being cognizant of heat challenges
with additional windows. He thanked the Council for their feedback during the
presentation,which is included in Goal 2 below.
(2) Goal 2: Council Input [as received throughout the presentation under Goal 1]
Council Member Ziegler asked about Marana youth swim competitions. Parks
and Recreation Director Jim Conroy said the goal was to host youth swim events
at the 25-yard multi-purpose pool and to not have to turn anyone away, as could
be the case with a 50-meter competition pool. Mayor Honea asked if there
would just be one pool, and Mr. Conroy stated there would be two: a 25-yard
multi-purpose pool and a recreation/play pool with a zero-degree entry and
water features, including a water resistance training feature (instead of a lazy
river due to staffing concerns). Mayor Honea expressed concern that the 25-yard
pool would be too small. Mr. Conroy stated it would be a 10-lane pool that could
be used for competition and other activities, including concurrent activities.
Vice Mayor Post expressed concern that unique water features may attract too
many people from outside Marana and that the facility could become
overcrowded. Mr. Conroy explained access to the facility could be restricted to
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Town residents and that a fee schedule would be brought before Council at some
point in the future.
Council Member Ziegler expressed concern at the facility not being open to
everyone. Mr. Rozema explained that a fee associated with membership would
deter people who live far away and that a higher fee could be charged to non-
residents as an alternative to not allowing non-residents in the facility. He said
non-residents have contributed to the facility through paying the half-cent sales
tax.
Council Member Ziegler stated she did not want to do what Goodyear had to do
in subsequently restricting access after opening due to over-demand. Mr.
Rozema stated the Town was not as populated as Goodyear, Arizona, and that
our facilities would be similar to the YMCA. He stated that the YMCA generally
does not feel overcrowded.
Council Member Officer suggested a possible restriction based on ZIP code.
Deputy Parks and Recreation Director Wayne Barnett said that Goodyear
allows members to bring non-resident guests to the facility and allows for
scheduled sessions to prevent overcrowding.
Mayor Honea recommended the Town build a state of the art center and then
figure out ways to control access if it ends up becoming overcrowded.
Council Member Ziegler commented that this was a good problem to have.
Council Member Craig asked if there would be restrooms in the pool area. Mr.
Rosso said there would be around four restrooms to serve the pool deck. Another
feature of the facility included gates to close off the bodies of water from the
locker rooms so those restrooms could still be used without fear of people
drowning when the pools were closed.
Council Member Ziegler asked if the lobby/teen room area was free or if
payment was required for these areas. Mr. Kane stated these areas were free,
similar to the Goodyear facility.
Mayor Honea said Goodyear thought their teen room was too small, and it was
a good-sized room. He said Marana has around 2,000 school-aged youths with
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laptops within walking distance of the facility, so the teen room needs to be large
and equipped with excellent Wi-Fi. Mr. Kane agreed.
Mayor Honea asked if there was one way into the facility with regards to security.
Mr. Kane said there was generally one way in,but there was a corridor that leads
out the back through gate controls, similar to Goodyear. Mayor Honea stated
security is really important, and he asked whether personnel would be stationed
at both access points. Mr. Kane said a lifeguard station would serve as a control
point, but that otherwise the project has not reached that level of detail yet and
that the concern would be taken into account.
In response to questions from Council Member Comerford and Council
Member Officer, Mr. Kane stated the current plan was to have the outside
bottom floor walls to consist as much as possible of glass and said there would
be a border of trees. He showed concept depictions of the exterior and interior of
the facility.
Council Member Comerford commented that the glass must be good quality so
it doesn't get hot in the facility.
Council Member Ziegler complimented the concept design photos.
Council Member Comerford expressed concern at the potential volume level
inside the facility. Mr. Kane explained that acoustic surfaces would likely be
used, like in Goodyear, to absorb sound, but stated the project had not reached
that level of detail yet.
Mayor Honea asked if the wall dividing the indoor courts from the outside could
be designed to open up to combine the outdoor courtyard with the courts for
really large events, such as Founders' Day or the Holiday Festival. Mr. Kane
explained that would interfere with the urban design concept and that flood
plane issues would make it difficult. Council Member Ziegler suggested opening
the facility up during those events on a limited capacity,such as for restroom use.
Mr. Rozema explained that it would be very expensive for a glass
interior/exterior wall to be constructed. Mayor Honea suggested large doors as
an option to allow access to the gym during large events.
Council Member Comerford asked about the possibility of an outdoor
amphitheater. Mr. Rosso explained the project is required to have a retention
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basin due to floodplain concerns, and that additional monies could be expended
to shape the retention basin into an amphitheater. Mr. Conroy said they have
been spending a lot of time looking at including an amphitheater, and he thinks
it is a great idea if the Town can afford it. He and Council Member Comerford
discussed the possibility of partnering with MUSD,the Marana Health Center, or
NWFD with regards to the amphitheater.
Council Member Craig commented that the primary concern for the fitness part
of the building was the urban look with glass walls. She did not want any
building design alterations that make the courtyard accessible to the gym to
dilute the urban look.
Mr.Conroy commented that the gym flooring was made of very durable material
and can handle anything, and that how that flooring is accessed is a detail that
needed to be fleshed out.
Council Member Ziegler commented that she hoped this facility would be an"if
you build it, they will come" moment for attracting businesses to Marana Main
Street. Mr. Rozema said that in speaking with others, the exterior aesthetics of
the facility would likely be a major factor in whether they are interesting in
bringing businesses to the vicinity.
Council Member Ziegler commented that it would be nice to have restaurants
nearby and hoped street crossing would be made easy.
(3) Goal 3: Budget Discussion
Mr. Nimmer provided a presentation on the cost estimate (for more information,
please see the PowerPoint slides). The updated cost of the facility is almost $60
million. He said they should have a contractor on board next month and a
guaranteed maximum price by May of 2023.
Council Member Ziegler commented that the project went from $44 million to
$47 million and now to $60 million.
Mr. Nimmer stated no one could have imagined how much costs increased over
the last two years with inflation. He said people believe things are slowing down,
but no one can with certainty predict the future. He also explained that the cost
estimate is very conceptual at this stage.
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Mr. Rosso explained that these numbers are Master Plan numbers escalated to
2023 numbers.
Mayor Honea stated that the Town is building a much different structure than
those being built and replicated in Maricopa County. He said the Town has an
identified funding source, and that there is no restriction on when the building
needs to be paid off. He said the decision could be made for the building to be
paid off over additional years in order to get the facility the Town wants. With an
identified funding source, the other operations of the Town would not be
affected. He said that, if needed,the Town could use reserve funds for the project
and pay the reserve back with the half-cent sales tax revenue.
Mayor Honea was of the opinion that the Town should build the best center it
could build. He said the biggest complaint about the Goodyear facility was that
it was too small and running out of space a month after it opened. He said the
Town needs to build a bigger facility.He said the Town should do it correctly and
not worry about the extra cost, and that costs go up and down and may go down
next year if the economy crashes.
Council Member Comerford agreed with Mayor Honea and said we wouldn't
want to regret the decision down the road.
Mr. Nimmer stated that both the current design and program price from two
years ago are around the same cost,and that the design team has done a good job
of keeping the scope as costed-out the same. He said nothing could be done about
the increase in prices due to inflation.
Mayor Honea asked how long design and construction would take. Mr. Nimmer
said we are at a point where direction from Council is needed before the project
moves forward, and the impression he is getting so far is that there is not a need
to scale back the project. They are currently in the design period, and he stated
that construction likely would start in about 10 months with 15 months of
construction time. The likely completion date would be Fall of 2024.
Council Member Ziegler asked how materials would be procured Mr. Nimmer
said the Town will hire a construction manager at risk (CMAR) who will handle
the procuring of materials. He also explained there were procurement methods
that could cut costs to the Town. Council Member Ziegler commented that she
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would like to explore options of cutting out middlemen to reduce costs. Council
Member Comerford said the Town did something similar when constructing
Town Hall.
Mr. Rosso explained that the estimates are based on their best guess, and that
today's dollars are being used to estimate tomorrow's dollars. If there is a crash,
costs could come down, but they don't want to be in a position where they
underestimated the costs.
Council Member Ziegler asked about the public art policy and Mr. Rozema
explained that the concept mural on the wall as you come into the building was
one idea. He said the policy could be satisfied through art or architecture.
Additionally, Mr. Rozema mentioned that the art could be an opportunity to
incorporate Heritage from the Strategic Plan.
At Mr. Conroy's request, Mr. Nimmer explained the timeframe for getting a
CMAR on board. Mr. Nimmer said there are three strong companies being
considered and said one would likely be selected by mid-November. The CMAR
will assist in the design process and help with materials, suppliers of materials,
and with pricing. He said all three bidders have virtual design capacity and will
be heavily involved in the design. He explained that if the Town is not happy
with the CMAR, the Town can go with another contractor. He explained the
contractor will be responsible for raising the building out of the floodplain,
explained the scoring process, and said the Town will be part of selecting the
contractor. Discussions ensued about the next steps in the procurement process.
Mayor Honea said citizens should receive some return on their investment as
soon as possible. He said they do not see the design process, but they will see
when the construction begins.
Mr. Rozema said he believed he had a good sense of direction from the Council and
summarized the following points to be sure:
• The Council is comfortable with the amenities discussed, described, and depicted
at the meeting today (with the understanding that around five acres of space
outside of the aquatics center and recreation center won't be addressed right
away, such as an amphitheater, sand volley ball court, etc.).
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• The Council is comfortable with Mayor Honea's desire to spend approximately
$60 million on the project instead of scaling it back to remain within the
previously discussed budget.
Council Member Craig stated she was in agreement and liked the new design.
Council Member Comerford was in agreement and did not want to be sorry later if they
chose to scale down the project now.
Council Member Ziegler said she was in agreement and liked what she was shown. She
thanked Mr.Conroy and the design team. She said the half-cent sales tax will sunset once
the facility is paid for and asked Mr. Montague how long the half-cent sales tax would
need to be in place for the $60-million project. Mr. Montague estimated it would take
roughly nine years. Discussion ensued regarding the sunset clause, and it was
determined after locating Ordinance No. 2021.022 that Section 4 required the Town to
rescind the tax once the facility was paid for.
There was consensus among the Council Members present regarding the two points
summarized by Mr. Rozema above.
Mr. Rozema thanked all involved in the project and praised the speed at which it was
moving. He said he felt it would be a great amenity and centerpiece in the Marana
community and that it was important to get it right the first time. He said Town staff and
the project team would take the direction received from Council and run with it.
EXECUTIVE SESSIONS
Pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03, the Town Council may vote to go into executive session,
which will not be open to the public, to discuss certain matters.
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Notwithstanding the Mayor's discretion regarding the items to be placed on the agenda,
if three or more Council members request that an item be placed on the agenda, it must
be placed on the agenda for the second regular Town Council meeting after the date of
the request, pursuant to Marana Town Code Section 2-4-2(B).
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Honea asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting.
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Council Member Ziegler moved, and Council Member Officer seconded the motion, to
adjourn the meeting. Motion passed, 5-0. Meeting adjourned at 1:50 PM.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing are the true and correct minutes of the Marana Town
Council special meeting held on October 5, 2022. I further certify that a quorum was
present.
David L. Udall, Town Clerk
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