HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-10-2024 Special Council Meeting Summary Minutes MARANA AZ
ESTABLISHED 1977
MARANA TOWN COUNCIL
SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING/RETREAT
9251 W Twin Peaks Road, Tucson, Arizona 85743
White Stallion Ranch, Longhorn Meeting Room, September 10, 2024, at or after 8:30
AM
Ed Honea, Mayor
Jon Post, Vice Mayor
Patti Comerford, Council Member
Jackie Craig, Council Member
Herb Kai, Council Member
John Officer, Council Member
Roxanne Ziegler, Council Member
SUMMARY MINUTES
[Each item on the agenda was subject to presentation, discussion, and possible direction from
Council. All agendized times in the left column are approximates only. Actual times are
included in the body of the minutes.]
8:30AM Breakfast
9:00AM
Call to Order/Roll Call
Mayor Honea called the meeting to order at 9:00 AM and directed the Town
Clerk to call the roll. All Council Members were present, constituting a
quorum. Staff present included Town Manager Terry Rozema, Deputy
Town Manager Erik Montague, Assistant Town Manager Andrea De La
Cruz,Town Attorney Jane Fairall,Town Clerk/Assistant Town Attorney
David Udall, and Deputy Town Clerk Debbie Thompson. Also present
was Mr. Patrick Cavanaugh.
Mayor Honea led the pledge of allegiance and a moment of silence.
Page 1 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
Approval of Agenda
Vice Mayor Post moved to approve the agenda as presented. Council
Member Officer seconded the motion. Motion passed, 7-0.
Mr. Rozema welcomed everyone to the retreat and highlighted the items
on the agenda.
9:00AM Heritage Park: Discussion regarding possible development strategy for
Heritage Park
9:45AM Presentation by: Terry Rozema
[Actual start time was 9:02 AM.]
Mr. Rozema presented on this item. He said the Town has struggled to
attract restaurants and said Town staff is trying to think of creative ways to
attract them. He proposed utilizing an area in the Marana Heritage River
Park as a venue for eating and recreation opportunities utilizing shipping
containers or other semi-permanent structures. A video was shown
highlighting the Portal at Bellingham and its amenities, which can be
viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9YrO8WSns. Part
of another video was shown highlighting a municipal pump track (bicycle
park) in Menifee, California, which can be viewed here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDY2xT8wIKI. Mr. Rozema
explained the Parks Master Plan already includes a pump track and said
Oro Valley recently built one.
Mr. Rozema said part of the goal of this effort would be to attract
restaurants to the Gladden Farms and North Marana area. He said such a
venue would give restaurants a start without the expense of a brick-and-
mortar building. He said the Town would receive rents for leased land. He
also highlighted that the Shared Use Path, which is popular with younger
people,would lead right into the proposed pump track and other amenities.
A copy of the presentation slides is on file with the Town Clerk's Office.
Please see the slides for relevant maps and images. Clarifying questions
were asked and answered during the presentation.
General discussion ensued as follows:
Page 2 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
• Council Member Ziegler asked if the Town did a restaurant tour in
North Marana. Mr. Rozema said it was planned, but almost no one
signed up. As a result, it had been postponed.
• Council Member Kai asked if there would be more liability to the
Town if it established a pump track. Mr. Rozema said it would not
be much different than the Town-owned skate park or splash pads,
and Ms. Fairall said that as long as the pump track was set up
correctly, people would use it at their own risk.
• Council Member Craig asked if private businesses would benefit
from all of the profit generated by establishing such an area. Mr.
Rozema said the Town would lease property to vendors on a per-
square-foot basis and that the businesses would profit off of what
they sold.
• Vice Mayor Post said he liked the idea and recommended that the
Town purchase the property to the southeast of the park. Mr.
Rozema said that was a good idea,but said that before approaching
the property owner and doing further research, he wanted to
propose this concept to the Council for feedback.
• Vice Mayor Post said it would be a good idea to start small and test
the idea by facilitating food trucks at the park and to expand if it
becomes popular. Mr. Rozema said he has had preliminary
discussions with Town staff regarding having food truck evenings
at the Marana Heritage River Park to test the idea. Vice Mayor Post
said the idea should be tested with planned events there. He also
recommended that shade and electricity hook-ups be established to
support the food trucks. Council Member Kai agreed. Mayor Honea
recommended tables also be located at the food truck sites, and
Council Member Comerford recommended the food trucks be
present for youth and sports programs. Vice Mayor Post asked if
there would be value in providing locations and amenities for food
trucks to park in other Town parks. Mr.Rozema said that was a great
idea. Mr. Cavanaugh commented that he liked Vice Mayor Post's
idea.
• Vice Mayor Post asked about the timeline required for the Town to
install a pump track. Mr. Rozema said there would need to be a full
Page 3 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
bid process and design, so it would probably be a couple years out.
Vice Mayor Post said pump tracks are popular,and that it would be
a good idea for the Town to install one. Council Member Craig
agreed.
There was a consensus among the Council for staff to proceed in looking
into this proposal.
9:45AM Community Facilities Districts (CFDs): Overview and purpose of CFDs;
discussion regarding managing future requests, and possible revisions to
11:00AM the Town's CFD policy
Presentation by: Erik Montague
[Actual start time was 9:32 AM.]
Mr. Montague presented on this item. A copy of the presentation slides is
on file with the Town Clerk's Office. Mr. Montague provided a brief
overview of CFDs, the Town's CFD policy, targeted tax rates, and invited
discussion regarding possible changes to the Town's CFD policy. For more
information, including a summary of what a community facilities district
(CFD) is and why they are formed, a list of questions for future discussion,
a list of community facilities districts (CFDs) the Town has (three active,
four proposed), a summary of the Town's experience with CFDs, maps of
the relevant areas, and an overview of the Town's current CFD policy
(including the2019 amendments differentiating between routine and
extraordinary infrastructure),please see the presentation slides and Marana
Resolution No. 2021-155. Clarifying questions were asked and answered
during the presentation.
General discussion ensued as follows:
• Council Member Craig said she did not like the option of raising the
CFD tax rate on homeowners if something went wrong. Mr.
Montague explained the Town's CFD policy is designed to protect
homeowners and that several layers of protection are in place to
guard against that, including standby contribution agreements with
developers and letters of credit. Council Member Craig asked what
would happen if a developer declared bankruptcy or walked. Mr.
Montague and Ms. Fairall said that is one of the risks of CFDs, and
that if the developer walked, state law would require the rates to be
raised to cover the debt obligations.
Page 4 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
• Vice Mayor Post said he was in favor of keeping the target tax rate
at $2.50. He said this would allow room to increase the tax rate
percentage without causing additional harm to homeowners in the
event a developer walked.
• Council Member Ziegler said the Town currently does not have a
bad example of a CFD and said Gladden Farms is a model CFD, but
said the Town needs to look more in depth at how to educate
potential homebuyers about CFDs so they are more informed when
purchasing a home. Council Member Kai agreed that educating
homeowners about CFDs is important.Council Member Comerford
said realtors should inform prospective homebuyers of CFDs, but
many do not, and many buyers don't read the lengthy homebuyer
documents. Council Member Ziegler said the problem is
particularly present when a home is resold to another homeowner.
Vice Mayor Post said that the biggest concern is when CFD money
isn't pulled for several years and already established homeowners
are then suddenly charged under the CFD. Mr. Montague said the
most common questions received from the public regarding CFDs
relate to what a CFD is and what they get for it. He said the Town is
doing what it can to get the word out.
• Council Member Kai expressed surprise that the Mandarina
development all of the sudden needed a CFD. Council Member
Ziegler thought Mandarina already have a CFD,and Ms.Fairall said
the CFD was contemplated in the 2020 Mandarina Development
Agreement. Mr. Montague said the Mandarina CFD has been in the
works for the prior three years. Council Member Ziegler
commented that no one wanted to develop on the east side of
Interstate 10 because of the huge infrastructure costs until
Mandarina came in and was willing to build the infrastructure in
exchange for a CFD.
• Vice Mayor Post said he would vote for a CFD that related to
infrastructure benefiting the impacted community - such as the dog
parks in Gladden Farms.
• Council Member Craig said the discussions over the last several
years involved how the Town is growing so fast and that it is difficult
to keep up with infrastructure needs. She said it seemed to her that
Page 5 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
CFDs encouraged rapid growth and asked if the Town wanted to
keep pursuing them. Mr. Montague said that one option would be
to encourage infill development rather than leapfrogging across
different areas of the Town.
Discussion ensued related to the following discussion points:
1. What should staff consider when reviewing applications for
enhanced levels of public infrastructure? (Please also see
presentation slide 10 for a summary of the Town's CFD policy
dealing with routine versus extraordinary infrastructure.)
o Vice Mayor Post said any tax rate proposed above $2.50
should come before the Council immediately. He said if a
developer wants an extraordinary infrastructure tax rate,
they will need to come to Council in advance. Council
Member Ziegler said she does not want developers to come
before the Council that often. Vice Mayor Post said he wasn't
sure how to get around that. Mr. Rozema said part of the
problem in the past was that staff made assumptions on what
would be considered extraordinary and he said he was
hoping for better clarity on what the Council would consider
as extraordinary.
2. Should we clarify what qualifies as extraordinary or should we
abandon the concept entirely? (Please also see presentation slide 12
for calculation comparisons.)
o Vice Mayor Post suggested the Town needs to first know
what the developer can afford.
o Mayor Honea said that the installation of drainage,
wastewater, water, and roads is all part of the cost of doing
business and should be considered a general expense. He said
that a regional park or contributions to build traffic
interchanges might be extraordinary. Council Member
Comerford agreed and asked how many times developers
needed to be paid back. She said anything required for them
to put housing on the land is their responsibility. Mr.
Montague asked whether running a seven-mile sewer line
would constitute extraordinary infrastructure, as was the case
Page 6 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
in the Gladden Farms CFD. Vice Mayor Post said that could
potentially be considered extraordinary, but that it was hard
to say. Mr. Montague said part of the issue was that the
"similar regional public infrastructure" language in the
Town's CFD policy, as amended, was a little fuzzy and made
it unclear when determining whether such infrastructure was
extraordinary.
o Mr. Montague asked if the Council would ever approve a tax
rate higher than the target tax rate. Mayor Honea said that
determination would need to be made on a case-by-case basis
so the Council could determine if something was
extraordinary. Mr. Montague showed presentation slide 12
and discussed the calculations. Vice Mayor Post asked if it
was a moot point to have a higher tax rate after seeing the
calculations. He asked if the Town should just take away the
extraordinary policy.
3. Should we formally set a target tax rate for bonds? Will we ever
entertain a tax rate higher than the target? Is Council okay with staff
bringing forward all CFD applications that conform to the CFD
policy?
o Council Member Kai said he was fine with the$2.50 rate,but
thinks the Town should have the ability to raise it, if needed.
Mayor Honea said he things the policy is fine as-is,but that it
was the interpretation of extraordinary infrastructure that
was the issue. Vice Mayor Post agreed the policy was not
broken.He recommended Town staff come before the Council
early so the Council can give input. Council Member Ziegler
said she did not want to make the process more complicated
with multiple meetings. Vice Mayor Post said there are only
four more proposed CFDs, and that it would not be a burden
to talk about them more. Mr. Montague and Ms. Fairall said
the Town has a similar process for annexations, where the
proposal is initially brought before the Council to see if the
Council is interested.
o Council Member Craig recommended removing the "fuzzy
language" as, discussed above, from the policy.
Page 7 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
Mr. Rozema summarized the Council's feedback as follows:
• The Council is comfortable going above the standard$2.50 rate when
warranted.
• The Council would like CFD proposals at a higher rate than$2.50 to
come before Council early to get Council input and feedback.
There was a consensus among the Council Members.
[A break was taken from 10:59 AM until 11:05 AM.]
11:00AM Moore Road Interchange: Discussion regarding planning for Moore Road
Interchange and possible direction on next steps
12:00PM Presentation by: Terry Rozema
[Actual start time was 11:05 AM.]
Mr. Rozema presented on this item. A copy of the presentation slides is on
file with the Town Clerk's Office. For a map of the area involved, please see
the presentation slides. Clarifying questions were asked and answered
during the presentation.
Mr. Rozema explained the priority and rough timelines for the Tangerine
and Marana Road interchange improvements. He proposed moving the
Moore Road interchange project up in priority and to begin the due
diligence process by paying for a design concept review (DCR). He said the
North Marana area is the growth area for the foreseeable future, and at
some point, Tangerine interchange will be shut down for about two years
for a grade-separated interchange installation. Marana Road will have the
same treatment. If Moore Road is a grade-separated interchange before
those project start,there will be more options for traffic to get on and off the
Interstate in North Marana when the other interchanges are closed for
construction. Moore Road can also be built now without closing an
interchange down.
General discussion ensued as follows:
• Council Member Ziegler agreed this was needed and said she saw
the logic in it. She asked who would pay for it. Mr. Rozema said the
Town would be spending a few million on a DCR if the Council
Page 8 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
provided direction to do so. The DCR will then help the Town know
how much it will be required to pay for the whole interchange
project and how much the Arizona Department of Transportation
(ADOT) would have to pay.
• Vice Mayor Post was in favor of the idea. He said the Town could
put this into its impact fee schedule once approved by the Council.
• Council Member Ziegler expressed concern about public perception
if residents see Moore Road being constructed while the Cortaro
interchange is struggling. Vice Mayor Post commented that Moore
Road involves safety issues at the Tangerine and Marana
interchanges while the Cortaro interchange involves wait time
concerns. Mayor Honea said that the Cortaro interchange and
Tangerine interchange projects would be locked in if the RTA Next
plan passes.
There was a consensus among the Council to proceed as indicated by Mr.
Rozema.
12:00PM Regional Transportation Authority (RTA): Update on RTA Next
-1:00PM Presentation by: Terry Rozema
Note: Lunch will be provided during this hour
[Actual start time was 11:24 PM.]
Mr. Rozema presented on this item. He provided some background and
history related to his and the Mayor's attendance at RTA Board meetings.
He said that originally, many projects were identified for RTA Next, and
Marana originally had 15 proposed projects. He said approximately 50% of
the projects were then cut due to the funding available through RTA Next,
and that projects began being prioritized as a result. He said the Cortaro
and Tangerine grade-separated interchanges were two of Marana's projects
and that the widening of Ina Road east of Interstate 10 was a third.
Mr. Rozema explained that several iterations of the RTA Next plan were
put forward, including plans in which a third of the money would go to
public transit. Under the proposed plan, the City of Tucson would receive
any excess revenues generated under RTA Next. The parties are currently
at an impasse as a result, but recently had the most productive meeting the
Page 9 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
group has had in the last two years. Clarifying questions were asked and
answered during the presentation.
General discussion ensued as follows:
• Council Member Ziegler said the City receiving all excess revenue
was a non-starter. Mr. Rozema said that condition was not
acceptable to the Town or other jurisdictions involved, and he said
voices of reason were now needed. He said they are hoping to put
something before the residents of the community to receive input
from them regarding transit plans. Council Member Ziegler asked
who would take the lead in public outreach. Mr. Rozema said the
RTA would primarily, but said the Town could look into doing its
own. Council Member Ziegler stressed the Town needed to do its
own outreach due to the importance of this endeavor.She said it was
really unfortunate the whole thing was being held up by one
jurisdiction.
• Mayor Honea said the primary issue was that the City of Tucson is
coming from a place of ideology rather than reality. He said the City
is anti-growth and anti-car, and that it wants to put in a lot of public
transit. He said the statistics show very few people use transit.
Council Member Ziegler expressed dismay that the City would take
a third of the RTA budget for buses when not many people are using
buses. She said their position was not based in fact.
• Vice Mayor Post asked if the Town could go out on its own. Mr.
Rozema said the Town could, but that it would lose out on the
money provided by RTA Next. He said there are benefits to
participating regionally. He also said the jurisdiction that would lose
out the most is Pima County because it is not able to pass a half-cent
sales tax given the composition of their Board. He said Pima County
has significant projects that would be part of RTA Next, including
widening Thornydale, Orange Grove, and Silverbell Roads.
• Mayor Honea explained the RTA Board is made up of regional
jurisdictions and ADOT. He said the City of Tucson has a lot of sway
over several of the local jurisdictions, and that the County may be
the deciding vote on which direction RTA Next goes. Mr. Rozema
thinks there is still hope it will pass because, if push came to shove
and one of the jurisdictions got what they wanted at the expense of
Page 10 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
the others,the other jurisdictions will either walk away from the deal
or campaign against it when it goes before the voters. He said it
could get ugly, and said there is a benefit to getting everyone to the
table and having the conversations that need to be had.
• Mayor Honea said if RTA Next fails,the Town will need to seriously
consider how it will proceed with the Cortaro and Moore
interchange projects. He said if RTA Next does go through, the
Cortaro and Tangerine interchange projects would be locked in.
• Mr. Cavanaugh commented that the Town should stick with RTA
Next, even if it is a bad deal, in order to get the money it needs for
its projects. Mayor Honea said he can't support the RTA if it does
not benefit the community.
[A lunch break was taken from 12:02 PM until 12:37 PM.]
1:00PM - Funding for Growth: Discussion regarding options for funding for growth
2:00PM and future approaches to impact fees
Presentation by: Erik Montague
[Actual start time was 12:37 PM.]
Mr. Montague presented on this item. He provided an overview of the
purpose of development impact fees (DIFs), the impact fee statute,
challenges with impact fees, and options going forward. A copy of the
presentation slides is on file with the Town Clerk's Office. For more
information, including a summary of the purpose of impact fees and
statutory language, a list of impact fee challenges, considerations to take
into account when considering abandoning impact fees, a summary to the
alternatives to impact fees, and a table comparing the options, please see
the presentation slides. Clarifying questions were asked and answered
during the presentation.
General discussion ensued as follows:
• Vice Mayor Post expressed concern that the Town would again be
sued as it continues to attempt to fund its infrastructure,particularly
when it comes to future wastewater facility expansion. He
suggested, in light of the current Southern Arizona Home Builders
Association (SAHBA) lawsuit, that the Town look at determining
Page 11 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
what should be funded by impact fees and what could be funded
through other mechanisms, such as the utility capacity fee outlined
in A.R.S. §§ 9-511 & 9-511.01. Mr. Montague explained the capacity
fees could not be utilized for acquisition purposes. Vice Mayor Post
said one concern with the capacity fees was that the first business
into a building would need to pay the entire capacity fee instead of
being adjusted when a new use comes in, as is the case with impact
fees. He said he would not like the Town's business-friendly
atmosphere to be affected. Mr. Montague said staff would need to
do more research into this. Council Member Craig asked if there
was more of a litigation threat with capacity fees, since water and
wastewater infrastructure was more expensive. Ms. Fairall
explained that the Supreme Court denied cert on the Mountainside v.
Flagstaff case, which is a good sign, but that it didn't mean the issue
could not be raised again. Vice Mayor Post asked if there was more
safety in impact fees since we know the rules of the game. Ms.Fairall
said there was not more safety in impact fees.
• Vice Mayor Post and Mayor Honea recommended doing away with
impact fees altogether and raising the Transaction Privilege Tax
(TPT) from 4% to 5%. Mayor Honea said it would involve the same
cost to a homeowner but would have less restrictions compared to
the impact fee process. Ms.Fairall said she believed there were some
limitations on how much construction sales tax could be raised. Mr.
Montague said staff would look into it and explore this idea. Mayor
Honea said that if it was going to be a continual fight with the
SAHBA regarding impact fees, that the Town should simplify its
approach and raise the tax.
• Council Member Craig commented that an even simpler approach
would be to require developers to install infrastructure at their own
expense. Council Member Comerford agreed and requested that
abandoning impact fees be put on the agenda. Council Member
Ziegler and Council Member Craig agreed.
• Vice Mayor Post asked why the Town doesn't require more private
streets so the Town is not on the hook for the expense of maintaining
them. Discussion ensued between Council and Town staff regarding
homeowners' associations likely being required to pay for
maintenance as a result and potentially not having sufficient
resources for such maintenance.
Page 12 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
• Vice Mayor Post asked if there was a way for the Town to utilize
development agreements to require more developer contributions
toward Town infrastructure. Mr. Montague said staff would need to
look into that. Ms. Fairall explained that if the infrastructure was
planned into the Town's infrastructure improvements program,then
the developer would be entitled to reimbursement.
• Vice Mayor Post asked how Chandler and Queen Creek pay for
infrastructure needs. Mr. Montague said the municipalities have
primary and secondary property taxes, which the Town does not
have. He said the property tax is a game-changer and allows them to
fund infrastructure projects and have more flexibility.
2:00PM - 2025 Spring Council Retreat: Identification and prioritization of topics for
4:00PM next year's Council Retreat scheduled for February 19 to February 21, 2025
Presentation by: Terry Rozema
[Actual start time was 1:37 PM.]
Mr. Rozema invited Council Members to provide input on topics for next
year's Council retreat. There was a consensus that the following topics
should be included on the 2025 Spring Council Retreat agenda:
• Parks and Recreation update, including discussions involving Ora
Mae Harn District Park and possibly acquiring Marana Unified
School District property
• Acquiring property from the Marana Health Center in furtherance
of downtown development
• Water and Wastewater update
• Economic Development update
• Roads discussion
• Airport update, including an update on the status of the air traffic
control tower project
Page 13 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024
• Consideration of adding a nurse practitioner position for Town staff,
similar to what is being done at the Northwest Fire District
o Before deciding on whether this should be added to the next
retreat agenda, discussion ensued regarding the value of
having a nurse practitioner on staff. Two Council Members
(Vice Mayor Post and Council Member Ziegler) were
opposed to the idea and two in favor of it(Mayor Honea,who
proposed this item, and Council Member Comerford). Mr.
Rozema asked if staff should bring the item before the
Council at the retreat with more information. Council
Member Kai requested the item be brought back with a cost-
benefit analysis. Mayor Honea agreed. Council Member
Officer suggested Town employees also be consulted first,
and explained a prior employer instituted something like this
and stopped using it because it didn't work.
• Consideration of affordable housing options, including an option
related to Habitat for Humanity proposed by Mayor Honea
Vice Mayor Post commented that the retreat should be in the same format
as last year's, which he thought went very well.
Adjournment
Mayor Honea asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Vice Mayor Post and Council Member Kai moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion
passed, 7-0. Meeting adjourned at 2:22 PM.
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing are the true and correct minutes of the special Town
Council meeting/retreat held on September 10, 2024. I further certify that a quorum
was resent.
David L. Udall, Town Clerk
A06(tik
MARANA A2
ESTAdttS9Fn a'
Page 14 of 14
Special Council Meeting/Retreat Summary Minutes
September 10,2024